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HSGFreak
01-19-2009, 01:17 PM
Hi all new to the site but not new to the game. I've always wanted to find a place like this for HSG5, I remember HSGworld for the 4th game but haven't really looked around for one, just thought everyone met in lobbies. I love the new advance system but also play Traditional shots a lot. Anyway just started on this forum and would like to compare best rounds with ppl. I'm a couple pts away from G0 now and I really think I might make some noise when I promote.

Here's my list

1 , -23, -22
2 -22, -20
3 -23, -20
4 -17, -17
5 -16, -16
6 -16, -14
7 - 18, -15

What are the best scores out there? Do any of mine stack up?

And what about this Dino Park remake course? I saw this one guy's vids he's got a japanese name and he shot -19 which seemed to be pretty good. Do we get this course ever?

MasonR
01-19-2009, 01:50 PM
Highland, -27, -25
Okinawa, -25, -24
Euro, -24, -23
Safari, -22, -22
Peaks, -21, -22
Crown, -20, -20
Oceania, -22, -21
Jurassic, -20, -15


Oceania Long Tee can burn in a fiery pit of hell, for the record.

As for when we're getting the 8th course, no word on it yet but it'll come eventually.

yasdad
01-19-2009, 03:11 PM
Um, no comment :( ;D

Nice scores though :)

J-Mod
01-19-2009, 03:51 PM
Yes, Oceania long-tee was definitely my worst until I shot -18 there in a G0 tourn with Kratos in the rain. Sometimes the added pressure of a tournament elevates my game. Usually not though.

Mace, I didn't realize -27 was even humanly possible. OK, best case scenario, you eag all the Par 5's and one-putt 1, 6, and 14. That's 7 eagles for a score of -25. You're telling me you wholed out TWO from the fairway AND shot a perfect round the rest of the way? That's why you have 200 G0 wins. My dear lord.

HSGFreak, no worries. Your scores are right on par with the other G0s. You'll do fine once you realize that anybody is beatable. It's all about confidence, man.

Roughdawg4
01-19-2009, 03:53 PM
actually someone has a -28 or -29 on minna. -27 is very possible and actually not that out of realm of possibility either. I mean some of the par 4's are so short you can turtle right down the fairway and have a 15-20 yard chip for eagle.

MasonR
01-19-2009, 05:53 PM
It's all about confidence, man.

Confidence and a -19 Crown Links game! ;)




Mace, I didn't realize -27 was even humanly possible. OK, best case scenario, you eag all the Par 5's and one-putt 1, 6, and 14. That's 7 eagles for a score of -25. You're telling me you wholed out TWO from the fairway AND shot a perfect round the rest of the way? That's why you have 200 G0 wins. My dear lord


Ha thanks man. Well I definitely got lucky, but there are other eagles that can be had without too much of a hassle. I was stuck at -25 for the longest time, I'd either miss eag on 1 or 14 pretty often and when I did get both of them I'd have no hole-outs.

Btw, Cars also has a -27, and he shot it first. We have the same scorecard except he putted on 1, I chipped from the fringe. And you're right the stock eagles are the 5s, 1, 6 and 14. I drove up near the green on 16 and holed out with a wedge, not a really hard shot, and #17 is always a good op for an ace without much wind, I rarely get it but it just happened to be right then.

Just about it all coming together really, like any good round. I definitely put the time and effort in for this one though.

There are some other short 4s that can be driven to within 60y, 5 you can get closer to 30y or so, you really gotta let go off the tee and give yourself decent ops for eags.


And as RD pointed out there are better scores from some jp players, I've seen a profile with -28 and one with -29, but other than that I've only seen -27s, (ha only) but I've definitely seen more than a few. Heaps of -26s too.

The-Dreamcaster
01-20-2009, 05:16 AM
Heres mine. i still need to boost a few 18s, as i've been busy with 9 hole scores.
Highland, -22, -20
Okinawa, -21, -10 (not played oki long tee in AGES)
Euro, -20, -19
Safari, -19, -18
Peaks, -16, -15
Crown, -15, -15
Oceania, -18, -19
Jurassic - N/A

an amazing round isn't the be all and end all of a g0 win. if you have an amazing round, like i have said before you either have to hope Mason's Dog is playing or no-1 else is playing an unstoppable round.
My dad did an -18 on crown links the other day only to be beaten by Plum on the last. he's still BITTER.

the_smug_one
01-20-2009, 12:03 PM
Question for Mace (or others in the know):

What is your strategy off the tee for Highland #14? Seems easy enough to go with a rabbit or turtle, but I find pretty often that I end up in the sand. I seem even more likely to end up on the beach if I don't rabbit or turtle. Any ideas?

-- Humbled at Highland

jk125
01-20-2009, 12:04 PM
good to see these posts alteast now i know where I need to take my game too. I thought i was an ok G1, but i'm no where near your levels of play.

Roughdawg4
01-20-2009, 12:09 PM
Thats because you are going for the pin smug. I tend to have more success shooting off to the side and trying to chip from the fairway.


I am not sure how mace does it, but they way I do it is I try to overshoot the green a little into that corner about 15 yards past the tee.

the_smug_one
01-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Thanks for the suggestion RD. This is generally an approach I like, but I'm curious to see if any rockstars out there (e.g., Mace) have a consistent strategy that puts them on the green.

Roughdawg4
01-20-2009, 12:46 PM
I mean -27 is a great score and I would love to shoot something like that but I think I only got a -25 or -26. Like Mason said, it is very hard to get all the pieces to fall in one game. I believe he said it took him a while of trying hard to get that number. So if it takes mason a while to get -27, you can imagine how long it will take the rest of us to get there :)

MasonR
01-20-2009, 02:15 PM
14 is one of the reasons why I use Big Air club with Anya. There's two parts to that green, if the pin is up front I'll blast a 310 power right over the tree and probably chip for an eag, or get a good branch and land on the green. A straight 300y seems to get caught way too easily, maybe a little ssbs or sss to take some carry off of it.

If the pin is left, right over the bunker, I'll take that 310 red power and aim it right over that little ridge in the green. Chances are I'll end up in that fairway area to the right or if I get a good kick maybe nearpin, but usually I'll be at the back of the green with a 30 or so ft putt. Here's a tip, that putt does NOT break what it looks like. It's a small break but it's about half of what you think it is.

With a front pin landing on the second "half" of the green is deadly, take your chances with a chip shot.

Forgot to mention Perfect Impact, but there's definitely a noticeable difference between pi and non-pi even if you get the line, distance and lie % the same.

Long Tee, ha good luck. Pretty much a full rabbit and a good boost (I've never looked at the actual boost needed, but it's at least 15y or so, red rabbit just doesn't go.

p1um5mu991er
01-20-2009, 02:24 PM
seriously, the golf channel has to get you to do the fly-bys

ladies and gentleman, mason nobilo

MasonR
01-20-2009, 02:28 PM
Ha Frank Nobilo cracks me up.

I could do like a 2-3 minute thing on each course, reveal meh secrets (hit pi a lot?).

p1um5mu991er
01-20-2009, 02:43 PM
sshhh don't tell ev1 about the pi secret

even though i don't know ya at all, we'll probably have to edit those "2-3 minute thing"s DOWN to 2-3 mins. like those well-crafted vids

combined pbs (plum and left)

H 24/23
O 23/23
E 23/22
S 21/21
P 19/20
C 19/17
O 19/20
J E/E

i gave up on pbs due to that specific issue of ideal conditions on certain holes--it's a real bummer when you have a disgusting round going and find yourself on a hole with the worst pin/wind combo (eg crown 5s). i get sad when i have something like a 12 going to the 11th on crown to find that the hole is tucked in the little peninsula on the right.

Ragefire18
01-20-2009, 05:34 PM
Haven't worked on getting any records yet ( still need to get all chars loyalty first ) but this is how it stands atm, thought it might be nice to add the number of attempts i've had so far as well :P

-22 ( 38 ) / -21 ( 24 )
-21 ( 35 ) / -20 ( 27 )
-20 ( 26 ) / -19 ( 26 )
-19 ( 39 ) / -18 ( 28 )
-19 ( 59 ) / -17 ( 56 )
-15 ( 99 ) / -15 ( 48 )
-19 ( 46 ) / -17 ( 44 )

Looks like i need a few more rounds at crown to try and remove those 15's,thanks to the G0 schedule that shouldn't be a problem, just to get a one without STD/STD Rain.... :P

MasonR
01-21-2009, 03:21 AM
I'm rather ticked off at the moment.

Comcast was doing service in the area and I got kicked out of a tournament, which I was leading for quite some time until an untimely rough +2, fought my way back to pod though, then got kicked, ha. Anyway, so I go offline to work on a few shots at the range record a few shots and maybe take a shot at a pb or two.

I finally set a new Oceania Long pb, -20. Too fkn bad I was -21 standing on the 18th tee. >:(

So, steamed as I was I went and played Safari Reg Tee. pb is -21 on Minna so I figure I could match my OOB pb. I holed out for a spiral eagle on the fourth, immediately forgot about Oceania. Played perfect for a while, everything was under 2m except a chip on the 9th for eag. -18 after 14 holes, I par 15, 16, and 17. Yay -20.

Not only that, but my spiral eag was overwritten by my 6y eag on 9. I also had a huge homing ace with Sophie 950 pts earlier in the day (at Okin, scores up there at 21 with telltale pts), which also got overwritten with an eag chip on the last. So...damn.

So I've deleted all of my non-epic shots, I won't be screwed again like that. Still got the whole not being able to finish off a round thing going on though. :(

the_smug_one
01-21-2009, 01:34 PM
Noticed someone recently put up a -23 Crown LT on the Minna board. Second time I've seen that ridiculous number put up at Crown LT.

K-X
01-21-2009, 01:49 PM
Noticed someone recently put up a -23 Crown LT on the Minna board. Second time I've seen that ridiculous number put up at Crown LT.

Not too ridiculous.. I've blown that score before when a homing eagle rolled into the sand for a par and had a riser fail for just a -20. >:(

MasonR
01-21-2009, 01:54 PM
Imagine how many near missed that guy had though. He probably blew a -25.

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 01:59 PM
yeah I never thought about that mason. Any game, even when you shatter your PB, you have some near misses.

I wouldn't mind looking at his scorecard :)

K-X
01-21-2009, 02:01 PM
Imagine how many near missed that guy had though. He probably blew a -25.


That's not really blown though, I have near misses a lot of the time but I don't think I deserve for all of them to go in.

the_smug_one
01-21-2009, 02:08 PM
Imagine how many near missed that guy had though. He probably blew a -25.


That's not really blown though, I have near misses a lot of the time but I don't think I deserve for all of them to go in.


Well not unless Mr. -23 had a failed homing shot and a failed riser...

MasonR
01-21-2009, 02:13 PM
You can't say for sure that he didn't miss a makeable putt though, or had a failed riser.

To say that -23 isn't ridic because you've shot a -20 is kind of insulting though. I mean, I shot -20 with a par on 9 (in a No power tourn with Kraptos no less). Usually what separates the great rounds from the almost great rounds is one hole.

I'm shocked that you don't seem all that impressed though. This isn't Highland where you can just put up numbers whenever you feel right, the par 5s and par 3s can just say "No"

p1um5mu991er
01-21-2009, 02:13 PM
23 noooooooooooooo

he's simply not human

IT CAN'T BE DONE

me no likey mr. 23

oh i'm on your side maceroni
to go beyond 17 or 18 on crown means that you had a ton of luck and pin/wind combos that we talked about b4

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 02:19 PM
Once you get over the 20's in crown, it is impressive. To dominate crown that good is a great day. Because just like mason said, all it takes is one hole to ruin your day and crown can do that to you.

K-X
01-21-2009, 02:21 PM
You can't say for sure that he didn't miss a makeable putt though, or had a failed riser.

To say that -23 isn't ridic because you've shot a -20 is kind of insulting though. I mean, I shot -20 with a par on 9 (in a No power tourn with Kraptos no less). Usually what separates the great rounds from the almost great rounds is one hole.

I'm shocked that you don't seem all that impressed though. This isn't Highland where you can just put up numbers whenever you feel right, the par 5s and par 3s can just say "No"

You just said 'probably missed a -25'. If my shots had went in, I probably missed a -25 as well if we go by just guessing he had some pars and at least 3 long chip ins. I never said the number is not good but it is definitely not impossible. Not like I shoot -20 every time either.

Also, that's a good point plum, some holes are much harder with certain winds but you've just got to adjust as much as possible.

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 02:24 PM
yeah but now you are saying you were 4 shots short of a -25 from your -20 :)


He might have only been 2 or possibly 1 shot away from a -25. Having one maybe in there is plausible. 4 maybes sounds a little crazy.

p1um5mu991er
01-21-2009, 02:24 PM
sorry about whining but i couldn't count the number of times i went 11 on the front of crown LT and got the whammy on 11

oh mr. hanz why do you put the pin there in the middle of my holy grail of PBs

K-X
01-21-2009, 02:26 PM
yeah but now you are saying you were 4 shots short of a -25 from your -20 :)


He might have only been 2 or possibly 1 shot away from a -25. Having one maybe in there is plausible. 4 maybes sounds a little crazy.

Just 2. Eagle + birdie for -23.

MasonR
01-21-2009, 02:32 PM
...eh I still think you're not seeing the difference between -20 and -23 very clearly. -20 gets shot all the time, -23 doesn't.

Never said -23 was impossible, it's just a ridiculous score.

K-X
01-21-2009, 02:33 PM
I know the difference, homing + riser fail. I really don't know what else to say. :-\

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 02:33 PM
You can't say for sure that he didn't miss a makeable putt though, or had a failed riser.

To say that -23 isn't ridic because you've shot a -20 is kind of insulting though. I mean, I shot -20 with a par on 9 (in a No power tourn with Kraptos no less). Usually what separates the great rounds from the almost great rounds is one hole.

I'm shocked that you don't seem all that impressed though. This isn't Highland where you can just put up numbers whenever you feel right, the par 5s and par 3s can just say "No"

You just said 'probably missed a -25'. If my shots had went in, I probably missed a -25 as well if we go by just guessing he had some pars and at least 3 long chip ins. I never said the number is not good but it is definitely not impossible. Not like I shoot -20 every time either.

Also, that's a good point plum, some holes are much harder with certain winds but you've just got to adjust as much as possible.



You said -25 above here K-X. You said that if you made your eagle and riser you would have had -23 and then you could have missed -25 just as easily.

So that would be 4 maybes there chief :)

MasonR
01-21-2009, 02:35 PM
Eh, just sounds like you're sore about it.

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 02:35 PM
...eh I still think you're not seeing the difference between -20 and -23 very clearly. -20 gets shot all the time, -23 doesn't.

Never said -23 was impossible, it's just a ridiculous score.



-23 on crown long tee requires a perfect game plus one hole out right ?


Can't get much better than that :)

K-X
01-21-2009, 02:38 PM
You can't say for sure that he didn't miss a makeable putt though, or had a failed riser.

To say that -23 isn't ridic because you've shot a -20 is kind of insulting though. I mean, I shot -20 with a par on 9 (in a No power tourn with Kraptos no less). Usually what separates the great rounds from the almost great rounds is one hole.

I'm shocked that you don't seem all that impressed though. This isn't Highland where you can just put up numbers whenever you feel right, the par 5s and par 3s can just say "No"

You just said 'probably missed a -25'. If my shots had went in, I probably missed a -25 as well if we go by just guessing he had some pars and at least 3 long chip ins. I never said the number is not good but it is definitely not impossible. Not like I shoot -20 every time either.

Also, that's a good point plum, some holes are much harder with certain winds but you've just got to adjust as much as possible.



You said -25 above here K-X. You said that if you made your eagle and riser you would have had -23 and then you could have missed -25 just as easily.

So that would be 4 maybes there chief :)


What I meant was if those shots had not blown so that would have been the same situation as the person who got that score.

Jeez Mason, I just said how -23 escaped me by a few cms and you are the one who came here trying to make me feel bad about how some other guy caked -23 and apparently missed an even better score. :-\

MasonR
01-21-2009, 02:41 PM
Well you started off with this...


Not too ridiculous

And then said you shot -20. It just seems to me that you were saying downplaying his -23 while touting your own -20. Yes you were close but three shots is still a lot.

I mean even if you had matched it I would still say it's ridiculous, and I'd congratulate you on an awesome round, but to say that a -23 isn't nutty because it was in the realm of possibility for you at one point is...weird.

K-X
01-21-2009, 03:08 PM
How am I downplaying? It's not too ridiculous because it only involves one long chip going in, but is it good? Hell yes it is, never said it wasn't good anywhere. You just tried to start something that isn't there because in no way did I say a failed -23 is better than whatever that person did. It's just that it is very possible to not mess up an impact or calculation and have a good round. Doing that is not ridiculous I'm sure you've done it many times on many courses. But hitting 2, 3, or 4 long chips would be in one round, on any course for that matter. A -26 on Okinawa is much harder for me to do than a -20 at Crown because it involves lots of chance, eg. long shots going in... Maybe you'd have taken it a different way if I said 2 holes were unlucky on an otherwise no mess up round. :-\

MasonR
01-21-2009, 03:12 PM
You just tried to start something that isn't there because in no way did I say a failed -23 is better than whatever that person did.

I'm not starting anything man, just look at the words you're writing.

...failed -23? Don't you mean a -20?

"whatever that person did" don't you mean -23?


That sentence right there is kind of a good point as to what I'm talking about.



But whatever man, maybe if you reread the topic you'll understand where I'm coming from, hell maybe not. Whatever.

And comparing Okin scores to Crown scores...it's like comparing apples to jet engines.

K-X
01-21-2009, 03:14 PM
I know it is still ridiculous to not mess up at Crown long tee but that's why I said it wasn't TOO ridiculous because every hole you have a good chance of getting the standard 1 or 2 under plus a lucky shot. That is all I said...

edit: In my post I said I failed getting a -23 because I was unlucky twice. Why are you selective quoting me like that? Why do you keep escalating this, I never said how bad it was!

the_smug_one
01-21-2009, 03:29 PM
Apples to jet engines, very solid (and apt) analogy!

MasonR
01-21-2009, 03:32 PM
I'm not trying to escalate it, but when you say things like "It's very possible to have a good round" it's hard for me not to stare wide-eyed at it in disbelief. -20 is a very good round and it's still 3 shots short of that -23. -23 is more than a good round. Yes you had a very good shot at it and got unlucky, but it's not as if you've done that several times, -20 is still your pb right? I mean if we all had -22s there I could see simply writing it off as "hey he really stuck with it and got a lucky hole out", but there's just more to it than that.

Whatever though, to each his own I guess.

p1um5mu991er
01-21-2009, 03:41 PM
ladiesssssss and gentlemennnnnn

r u ready to argue semantics?

just for the record i'll take a 20
fine i'll take a 19

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 03:43 PM
LOL apples to jet engines, hilarious :)

p1um5mu991er
01-21-2009, 03:45 PM
pretty crazy how that plane crashed into the hudson river af ter both of its crowns petered out :D

WOW i am funny

the_smug_one
01-21-2009, 03:48 PM
pretty crazy how that plane crashed into the hudson river af ter both of its crowns petered out :D


:-[ :-\ :-X

MasonR
01-21-2009, 03:52 PM
=/ 97%

=/ pinshot

=/ rainputt

???

Airscoots
01-21-2009, 09:18 PM
-23 is nothing, like I shot a pb of -17, shoulda been -24. LOL. JK, sorry k-x had too. Anyway good scores all and at least it sparked a debate. With all that arguing it must be good.

Roughdawg4
01-21-2009, 09:47 PM
yeah anything over -20 is an excellent score :)

p1um5mu991er
01-28-2009, 06:45 AM
these records are TOO HARD! i really don't want to go back again, but oh well

there's nothing worse than trying to set a new pb when you know it'll take a hole out to do it *sob*

yunatidus4ever
01-28-2009, 08:57 AM
I been trying to get a -20 on anything but highland for 2 days and cannot come close.

Having said that- a "good round" (-20 or better) is not just a good round. Even at Okinawa. It is about knowing each hole, each green, and getting the Bird/Eagle EVERY TIME. NO MISTAKES. That is more than a good round, it is a EXCELLENT round!

Hey I know I am not one of the super G0's but you really gotta have your game on to get better than a -20.

Yeah I know listening to me compared to immortals like K-X and Mason is rediculous right, but I want the rest of the Humans to know that those scores are AMAZING!!!!

clint_westwood
01-28-2009, 09:09 AM
put another way yuna, even the top players if they dont concentrate will not hit -20 anywhere other than highlands......

-20 is ok at highlands, not bad at okinawawaw, tidy at euro, yay got decent %% for safari, now yer talking at oceania, oooohhh high level golfer at silver and..........well a dam well cheat at crowns!!!

no matter how good you are you still need a level of concetration to get that score i think

Roughdawg4
01-28-2009, 09:26 AM
yeah Clint is right. Outside Okinawa and Highlands, -20 is an accomplishment.


Okay maybe at Euro it could be guaranteed, but still for the other courses it is not easy. Safari is hard because there are no short holes so -22 is a perfect game there (assuming no hole outs) and sometimes you can get those bad %'s.

The rest of the courses, -20 is a good day :). You have to remember, these are the best scores that they had. It doesn't mean they shoot these scores each time. People have bad days :)

MasonR
01-28-2009, 09:52 AM
Safari reg tee has that short par 4 on the front nine that can be driven, actually.

Pain in the ass course though, the difference between -22 and -20 there is usually just the resulting lie percentage from any given shot.

Roughdawg4
01-28-2009, 09:56 AM
are you sure? I mean I am not saying I don't believe you I just never remembered a driveable par 4.


Which one is it, just something that would help me visualize it :)

MasonR
01-28-2009, 09:59 AM
Dead positive. Either 5th or 6th hole, about 320 yards all uphill.

Roughdawg4
01-28-2009, 10:04 AM
I just don't know, I usually know all the ones you can take a chance on. Unless you mean the one on the back 9 where you can over the rocks.

MasonR
01-28-2009, 10:06 AM
Well it's there, just take a look next time you play.

cartman1337
01-28-2009, 10:17 AM
I just don't know, I usually know all the ones you can take a chance on. Unless you mean the one on the back 9 where you can over the rocks.


That's the one. At least I think so. It's the one with a little rocky cleft on an otherwise rough mountain spot, with a bunker at the left side of the exit of it, rough right in front of it, and fairway a couple of yards behind it. I've been able to drive that green once, with a lucky bounce and favorable wind. The pin was all the way on the other side of the green though, for a 16m+ nasty putt which I didn't make... But if you're real lucky with wind, bounces and pin position, it IS possible to H-I-O that hole... ;)

MasonR
01-28-2009, 10:25 AM
Ya that hole can be driven as well, but it's not the one I'm talking about. The hole to which I'm referring can be driven pretty much 90% of the time.

Roughdawg4
01-28-2009, 10:36 AM
Is this the hole when you are on the long tee you drive on the fairway on the other side. (well you can if you want to )

J-Mod
01-28-2009, 10:44 AM
Safari reg tee has that short par 4 on the front nine that can be driven, actually.


I'm pretty sure you're referring to Hole #5. The green is elevated with a nasty rock cliff on two sides. Usually there are cars zooming past in the rough, and there's a pond about 250 yds out and a little bailout patch of fairway just past the water.

That hole is drivable 90% of the time?!? Not on long tee, no way. Even on reg tee, that would require a pretty serious rabbit to reach. If you miss and go down behind the rock cliff, you're pretty much guaranteed bogey or worse. That's a shot I don't even attempt. I just lay it up and take the bird. But if Mace says it's possible, then it's something to consider.

cartman1337
01-28-2009, 10:46 AM
Have to agree with J-Mod on that one. I've tried to drive it a few times, and regretted every single one of them... ;)

MasonR
01-28-2009, 10:50 AM
My original post was referring to Regular Tee, I never said back tee.

Aim on the right siding of the closest building/tent whatever that is, full rabbit, at worst you'll roll back down to about 60y.

Roughdawg4
01-28-2009, 11:01 AM
oh okay I know what you are talking about. Those cars where they zoom by.


Yeah I am with you Cartman. I have tried a few times and I regret it each time so I have stopped.

the_smug_one
01-28-2009, 11:09 AM
It's actually not a very risky shot if you know what you're doing. As Mace noted, proper aim will put your shot in a position so that even if you miss you're just looking at a 50-60 yard approach. Don't think it's reasonably within reach for non-elite characters, but it is a much more driveable par 4 than the one people have referenced on the back 9.

K-X
01-28-2009, 11:34 AM
Assuming there's no wind, it is very unlikely that you can reach the green on that hole. You'd need 320+ yard power, full rabbit and 100% ball impact... I'd say that is about a 15% chance if you don't accidentally do a skull shot trying to get it. Even then, you are over 10m from the nearest cup so it could be a tough putt. If there is wind, things change, good or bad. I'd only go for it if I had a pretty good tailwind, at least 3m since blue power is so random.

the_smug_one
01-28-2009, 11:39 AM
Are you sure about needing the 320+ <b>and</b> a full rabbit? I'm certain I have reached the green on multiple occaions with red flame. I actually try to avoid ever using the blue flame - seems like a waste of an otherwise controlled shot.

K-X
01-28-2009, 11:46 AM
Tested it before. Anya big air and infinity, needed 320y power with no wind while aiming at hut with full rabbit. Maybe you had a good tailwind?

MasonR
01-28-2009, 11:47 AM
Take a few cracks at it in Training mode, KX. You don't need a 320 on top of a full rabbit. Even into the wind you can blast it up to around 30y away from the pin at worst.

And smug hit the nail on the head, I see too many people use Blue flame for all their rabbit/turtle needs. Many of the drivable par 4s can be driven with just a red flame without help from the wind. For this one I'd go Blue flame unless I had 2-3 mph wind behind me.


Hell, smug and I played in a gameroom with seams a few weeks ago, he reached it with Anya/Inf/Inf with an unhelpful sidewind.

K-X
01-28-2009, 11:52 AM
Well I already did, and we both said reaching the green, not the fairway in front of it.

MasonR
01-28-2009, 11:56 AM
That's why I said "at worst." There was an issue about the result of not hitting the perfect shot if you'll read back a few posts.

The fact of the matter is, you claim you need 320 boost with a full rabbit to even have a 15% chance of getting there. Considering I saw someone do it with an unhelpful wind and a 295 base driver...I'd say you're a little off on your estimate. It has a lot to do with the bounce you get, aim a little off or undercook your rabbit and your bounce will be straight into an upslope, with proper aim/execution a short boost will land in the flat spot of the fairway short of the green and a medium/big boost will land just before if not on the green. It's not all about full boost with wind and full rabbit, you still have to aim properly.

K-X
01-28-2009, 11:57 AM
Anya inf/inf rabbits and turtles go about the same distance as big air/inf because of the more spin you have, the farther they go (uphill at least). Maybe you should practice more. ;)

Also, side winds can help push the ball if you hit it so it carries it.

MasonR
01-28-2009, 11:59 AM
Well that's a load of crap if I've ever read it.

Unless by "about the same" you mean "5 yards less given the same boost" you're wrong.

Do I need to make a video to show you that you're wrong?



Also, side winds can help push the ball if you hit it so it carries it.

Selective reading maybe? Unhelpful sidewind is unhelpful.

K-X
01-28-2009, 12:02 PM
I really don't care but go ahead if you want to. ::) My lowest power number was 318y to be able to just make it on but you might be able to get 1 or 2 yards lower.

the_smug_one
01-28-2009, 12:05 PM
<i>"Unhelpful sidewind is unhelpful."</i>

OK you lost me on this, in way over my head. Clarification please?

MasonR
01-28-2009, 12:05 PM
So now it's 318...

You still holding on to that "omg moar spin = more distance w/rabbit/turtle" thing?

K-X
01-28-2009, 12:08 PM
Since the arc of the ball is higher with more spin the ball lands further, about the same distance it would have with less spin but more power. Maybe I'm wrong, but stop being such a jerk about trying to prove it wrong with no evidence. Is it really helping the discussion?

Roughdawg4
01-28-2009, 12:13 PM
okay yeah I am lost as well.


And Mason, I would love to see a video as what you do. I am really curious on how to approach the hole. Also I always use red control turtle/rabbit as well unless I need to drive the ball a really far distance.

Red Power Turtle is so much easier to control then full power blue.

MasonR
01-28-2009, 12:13 PM
The only reason I'm being a jerk about it is because the things you're saying to contradict me are unfounded. Spin simply does not make enough of a difference (especially just one grade's difference) to make up for a 5 yard loss in distance, and you're simply using that statement (which I believe you hadn't bothered to test) to make up for your statement that even with 320 and full shank you don't have a good chance to drive the hole, which I countered by my example of two seams driving it with Inf/Inf...you're just digging a hole for yourself because you were trying to disprove what I said.

Was my 90% estimate a little high? Sure, I'll admit to that.

Was your 15% (along with damn near perfect conditions) estimate a little too low? Definitely, but instead of just owning it you tried to sneak around it by greatly exaggerating the effects of spin on a rabbit/turtle shot.






about trying to prove it wrong with no evidence

How about you start reading the things I'm typing? I've offered to provide VIDEO evidence.



Since the arc of the ball is higher with more spin the ball lands further

Ok try this. Go to training mode. Turn the wind off.

Aim down the center line with Anya/Standard/Standard and hit a full red rabbit. With 100% ball you'll just eclipse the 308 mark.

Now go with Maru/Tspin/Tspin. 2y less in distance, full red rabbit with 100% ball...guess what happens? 306 yards!


There's your evidence to disprove your last statement. Maybe if you're going to be so adamant in what you say make sure it's correct before you start claiming I'm being a jerk? The only reason I was getting on your case is because you kept up with it, saying things that simply aren't true.



And hey, just for the hell of it, results for #5 Safari in terms of testing what more spin will do to the tee shot.

The difference between Big Air/Inf trajectory and Inf/Inf spin is one full grade, just not really enough of a difference to allow the Inf/Inf to make up the 5yards difference.

Red rabbit 100% ball with Big Air/Inf gets right at 316.

On the very same line with Inf/Inf, 100% ball you're getting less than 312.

With Dino/Inf/Inf and full ball you're only getting an extra 2/3 of a yard, not enough to make up for a 5y difference.

Hotshot14
01-30-2009, 04:19 PM
Here are my best scores:
Regular Tee Back Tee
Highland -22 (5060) Highland -20 (4780)
Okinawa -20 (4766) Okinawa -17 (4313)
Euro Classic -17 (4385) Euro Classic -16 (4301)
Great Safari -18 (4456) Great Safari -14 (3935)
Silver Peaks -15 (3993) Silver Peaks -16 (4140)
Crown Links -11 (3593) Crown Links -11 (3621)
Oceania Resort -16 (4180) Oceania Resort -12 (3874)

I really havent tried to improve these scores, they are just my scores thorough challenge mode and online
which is only on the 3 annoying courses (peaks, crown & oceania) :(

Keys1980
11-29-2009, 05:52 PM
The ones I am most proud of are;

My -12 at 9hl ociana reg tee. That stands at #1 on the HSGOOB rankings screen...thingy, lol whatever it's called.

I also am proud of my -19 at 18hl ociana long tee mir. It's no where near the top of the ranks (i think 40something) but for me it was a great round.

Senidol
12-04-2009, 04:25 AM
I'll go the same way of Keys and try and revive this thread. Still working on some PB's, but the one im most proud of at the moment is my -14 4000 points at Euro Reg tee Out.(And yes the score and the points were shot in different rounds, but later improved my -12 to -14.)

I also just shot a -21 at crown Reg tee which was pretty cool.

Keys1980
01-10-2010, 01:47 AM
I'll go the same way of Keys and try and revive this thread. Still working on some PB's, but the one im most proud of at the moment is my -14 4000 points at Euro Reg tee Out.(And yes the score and the points were shot in different rounds, but later improved my -12 to -14.)

I also just shot a -21 at crown Reg tee which was pretty cool.

Very nice sir. I h8 crown.. Or rather crown h8s me. But I pulled out a PB -18 on crown reg in a tour...and it even won me the tour (thanx NY for shooting -17).

I love getting PB's and not even winning the tour. That's fun. I know that when I shot that -12 on ociana out (which still stands at #1) albi shot a -11 the same game (he fricken aced hole 9!) and he was unimpressed to not win as that stands as his PB for the same course. Eat it you punk kid ;).. lol I joke albi owns me 99/100.

Senidol
02-20-2010, 08:33 AM
Finally joined the elusive 6000+ point club sometime last week on Minna. Playing with Anya at Highland Reg Tee I shot a -27 with 6022 points.

Eagle 1, 3, 6, 8(ace),9,13,18
Albatross homing on 12. (4x I think)

Improved PB from -25(OOB) to -27(Minna)