View Full Version : Putting Transition - Any help?
Scotty9678
02-22-2009, 11:33 AM
This is more to American players.
I'm trying to adjust to putting and I feel like I'm guessing. I knew the code or key for the American version but I'm still a little lost.
I've noticed that +/- 10cm is equal to +/1 about a meter on putting. But I can really see moderate distance putts giving me serious problems until I get this down better, so any tips, should I use the grid boxes more? Please and thank you.
(side note - Got pod on my first g3 tournament respectable 5th out of 46 with a -19 on Highland with the "no distance marker" add-on)
kumanzc
02-22-2009, 12:17 PM
On the short putter - up to 10m. 1 box grid equals +/- 5cm according to Mace and I must say it works great.
Kbongg
02-22-2009, 02:14 PM
That is on all putters you should be using (the really big putter is just a freaking guess anyway). A box is +/- 5cm. I always tack on 1 extra box when putting too, but that is in HSG as well.
reeja19
02-22-2009, 03:17 PM
I find that the math for putting on Minna is so much easier than HSG. Just stick with the 1 box = 5cm and you will have it down in no time.
MasonR
02-22-2009, 03:50 PM
What they said. 1 box = 5cm.
Always always always do the math.
kumanzc
02-22-2009, 03:58 PM
BTW I wanted to thank you for that tip Mace. No one piece of info has improved my game more than that. Now if you've got something for chips I'd be mighty appreciative as well. ;)
Kbongg
02-22-2009, 04:13 PM
Get closer to the hole on your approach!!!
feeling spunky now with the broken ps3 posts :P
Chipping is alot to do with your lie. Learn to read the lie correctly and then adjust for wind and green (if you are going to do a runner that is). If you get decent pi, learn to do pinsmash and go for risers. If you dont like that idea then you need to read the green as well. If there is a lot of slope on the green then learn SSBS if it is fairly flat go with a running STS. If you are on the fringe or fairway you can try for mini-homing, but that would be my least favorite method as the wind has more time to interfere with flight path.
Highland greens - think 7i for chip and run.
Crown style - Think PW or SW and SSBS or SBS.
STS is a good option most of the time - be wary of uphill lie as you can easily fly the pin if not careful, downhill lie and you need more power to get to the pin in the air.
I am bored.
Scotty9678
02-22-2009, 10:27 PM
Thanks guys. I guess I was over thinking with the 10 cm add a meter (or maybe that's right too?) but anyway...thank you.
See you guys out there, 2 pods in 2 in tournaments, then life intervened for the rest of the day.
Elektropop
02-27-2009, 01:18 PM
Wow. I never used that box thing. In minna and also in EG world tour (both metric), it's easy to just remember '1m/10cm' 'power/slope' ...
I bagged a real zig zag 19,0m putt with 1,1m (110cm) upslope. Basically with my math it's 100% with the 30m long putter. Well it went in, nice and smoothly without any excess power.
That really proved to me that in metric it's 1m/10cm rather accurately in all distance putts..
Modification: Oh and by the way, I'm a sonar putter :) Maybe would do better if i joined the 'Top-View' -club..
the_smug_one
02-27-2009, 01:33 PM
As a prior sonar putter myself, I can tell you that box counting is basically just a modified - and more accurate - extension of the same concept. And it works really well.
Elektropop
02-27-2009, 01:48 PM
Hmm.. Yes might be. I just find the refresh rate (either of the game, screen or my eyes) so poor, that i find it difficult to do accurate putting based on looking at the boxes.. Meh.. Though sometimes the same applies for sonar, if your system is out of sync :)
I'm a drummer, so I find it easier to sort of make a rhythm based on a 1/8 pace generally.. For more accuracy i might go to 1/16 too :)
If I'm feeling Billy Cobham-y, maybe 15/16.. That cracks me up.
the_smug_one
02-27-2009, 01:52 PM
I'm a drummer, so I find it easier to sort of make a rhythm based on a 1/8 pace generally.. For more accuracy i might go to 1/16 too :)
Interesting idea - I never really thought about that, but it definitely makes sense. Too bad I have absolutely no sense of rhythm...
Elektropop
02-27-2009, 02:03 PM
I'm a drummer, so I find it easier to sort of make a rhythm based on a 1/8 pace generally.. For more accuracy i might go to 1/16 too :)
Interesting idea - I never really thought about that, but it definitely makes sense. Too bad I have absolutely no sense of rhythm...
:(
Maybe you should find a digital metronome somewhere and download it to your mp3 player. And while you sleep, you set it looping for the whole night.. 15dB in the background would do :)
Make sure it's the same rpm as the putter or you would have lost your good night's sleep for nothing..
Hehee... A terrible idea ;D
clint_westwood
03-02-2009, 06:24 AM
regarding putting on minna.......... on the putts that are borderline , say a double break , i really miss the "goes left" or " to the right" off the caddy........ i need help with that :D
Elektropop
03-02-2009, 06:35 AM
The absolute worst thing about putting is:
THE SUPER ANNOYING SECTOR SLOPE!
I can't come up with a more satisfying term for it. But you know those very uneven greens that have many small hills etc. If you're on top of one and try to aim, the beginning of sideslope starts from the next sector and moves when you move the cursor... Ah what a language barrier..
You know what i mean??
clint_westwood
03-02-2009, 06:48 AM
yes i know what you mean............you judge a putt say that goes into another block only to find in the next block theres more break and you go on and on and on and on
i had it a few times
i hate the one where you are sitting right on a major slope left or right and it breaks the other way nearer the hole yet you can never allow enough break for where you start off from..........hard to explain but an impossible putt.......
not as bad as oceania 11 (par 5), anyone ended up front left in two in the kidney shaped bit around bunker.......you cant putt to the hole due to bunker and have to go out side ways and leave yourself like 20ft for par
Elektropop
03-02-2009, 06:55 AM
Exactly!
It makes the putt impossible! Theoretically you would have to play by force, and that's unacceptable!
Hehe.. i know what you're saying about that par5.. never happened to me though. Lucky! :)
cartman1337
03-02-2009, 07:02 AM
Not to me either. I usually end up IN the bunker when trying to reach that hole in two. Still, the chances of chipping in from the bunker is greater than the chance of putting from below it, so maybe it's not that bad after all. ;D
Elektropop
03-02-2009, 07:03 AM
Haahaa right you are. :)
Though i don't think the putt is THAT bad...
OthersGirl
03-02-2009, 09:36 AM
well, Elek, we can't all be putt-kings <grin>
Elektropop
03-02-2009, 04:26 PM
That's BS.. I'm not a putt king; I just appear as one. :)
oogle-eyes
03-04-2009, 11:18 AM
As in physical golf there is only one way to be a great putter. Feel and feel alone. I might add the feel in minna is different than out of bounds.
Elektropop
03-04-2009, 11:30 AM
Heey welcome oogle!
So you're saying putting is easier in Minna?
reeja19
03-04-2009, 11:43 AM
I personally think putting is much easier in Minna. For me putting in OOB was a feel thing, where in minna it is strictly math.
Elektropop
03-04-2009, 11:45 AM
Ah sorry :)
Of course, since it's metric!
My OOB is actually EGWT, so i have both metric ;D
Lucky me..
oogle-eyes
03-04-2009, 11:52 AM
in minna i find the downhillers roll faster and the uphillers slower so i am still developing a feel on minna. math to me equals why bother.
Elektropop
03-04-2009, 11:56 AM
haha.. ok :)
i bother cause there is really no feel in the putting.. just math :)
and that gets me scores.. sometimes :(
oogle-eyes
03-04-2009, 12:10 PM
the feel is there luke let go of your math
Elektropop
03-04-2009, 01:54 PM
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