Why do all the engaging topics get deleted...

[reeja19]

I mean I understand you want complete order and control over what is said and done on the site, but still it is gey that everything is so closely monitored. I feel that this dictatorial stance the "Management" has taken over this site is part of the reason the site has lost traffic.

[interyernan]

Why were you enjoying that?

[reeja19]

Why were you enjoying that?


Actually, I was enjoying it quite abit to be honest :D

[interyernan]

Not really a side of me people see very often.

[reeja19]

Yes and abit uncalled for in my opinion, but I really don't think that topics need to be modded or deleted or closed because of an argument. I mean let people say what it is that they need to say and be done with it.

[Optimus_Prime]

Reej, I think you have a good point. If more people wanted us to let personal bickering continue, then maybe management would consider it. Currently this forum isn't like the majority of game forums where anything goes. The main site admin/creator will always have the final say on the posting philosophy of the site, but he's certainly willing to listen to feedback.

By the way, we're trying to be a little looser in letting discussions go, but when it's blatant personal attacks that's when we may have to remove posts or close threads. We don't actually delete them, and in fact have restored posts after closely reviewing them (one time I remember at least). If things settle down, there's nothing to say that we can't reopen a thread as well.

Personally, I don't mind a bit of back and forth (break out the MJ eating popcorn gif). Even if it gets heated, as long as people come to an understanding, it's probably okay. But unfortunately that latter part hasn't happened too often, and that's where we've sometimes been a bit quick (or not so quick at times) to mod things.

[Elektropop]

Sexually engaging? ...

[Roughdawg4]

Yes and abit uncalled for in my opinion, but I really don't think that topics need to be modded or deleted or closed because of an argument. I mean let people say what it is that they need to say and be done with it.


What was uncalled the closing of the topic or his opinion in the topic?

[yunatidus4ever]

I say there is one cure for the common cold.

Create a thread called ****** ***** *** **** *****, where all you boys can hammer it out until you finally feel some love for one another. Argue about who has the bigger feet or whatever you wish, until your faces all turn blue and you start crying to your wives/finances/husbands? about how hurt you are.

Sound good?

[Goo__ooG]

I feel that this dictatorial stance the "Management" has taken over this site is part of the reason the site has lost traffic.

You hit the nail on the head there!
Yes first post, but i was on this site before and it used to be good. However, when it was decided that ever other member become a moderator or some sort or other, that's when things started goin pear shaped.
"Too many cooks spoil the broth"
A statement was never more true.

Power going to people's heads is very obvious on this site.
Threads are being locked for no good reason, posts are being deleted for no good reason and general over-ruling by moderators is out of control.

Now, may I make a suggestion.

For one week, let every post stand (unless it is racist, sexually abusive or a personal threat to someone's personal wellbeing - there should be no other reason for deleting or removing a post/thread)

Monitor the daily traffic, and I can pretty much predictthat site traffic will go up.

Just because someone has been givn a "moderator" title does not givethem free reign to destroy a perfectly good site (whichthis was up till a few months ago)

So, delete this you want, no big deal to me. But for people who like to visit this site daily to engage in a bit of friendly (sometimes heated) banter, get down off your bloody pedestals and give everyone back their right to free speech If a post is offensive or someone finds it a personal attack I'm sure they will ask for it to be deleted. If not, then just leave it the hell alone.

[dirtdog91]

I was out all day, sooo, is it possible to release anything i may have missed?

[reeja19]

You hit the nail on the head there!
Yes first post, but i was on this site before and it used to be good. However, when it was decided that ever other member become a moderator or some sort or other, that's when things started goin pear shaped.
"Too many cooks spoil the broth"
A statement was never more true.

Power going to people's heads is very obvious on this site.
Threads are being locked for no good reason, posts are being deleted for no good reason and general over-ruling by moderators is out of control.

Now, may I make a suggestion.

For one week, let every post stand (unless it is racist, sexually abusive or a personal threat to someone's personal wellbeing - there should be no other reason for deleting or removing a post/thread)

Monitor the daily traffic, and I can pretty much predictthat site traffic will go up.

Just because someone has been givn a "moderator" title does not givethem free reign to destroy a perfectly good site (whichthis was up till a few months ago)

So, delete this you want, no big deal to me. But for people who like to visit this site daily to engage in a bit of friendly (sometimes heated) banter, get down off your bloody pedestals and give everyone back their right to free speech If a post is offensive or someone finds it a personal attack I'm sure they will ask for it to be deleted. If not, then just leave it the hell alone.

Well stated Goo... :D

[reeja19]

What was uncalled the closing of the topic or his opinion in the topic?


Well his opinion was abit harsh, but the closing of the topic was uncalled for.

[interyernan]

I wish you could all see the tool we have called the Mod Log - it shows everything that is edited, moved and altered. You would actually see that it's not as much as you think.

As for the power going to the head. Pfft. Not at all - i'm empowered in the real world and really don't get a in a state of grandure just cos i'm Admin on a computer game. Again if you could see how much stuff actually does get allowed then you would see how forgiving we all are.

I would urge people to look at the way the staff is structured. The buck stops with Morph, then there is Yuna and I, then the department heads of Shaq, Cartman, OG and OP. The other members of staff are there to assist in looking through all the boards the site provides and that involves cleaning posts up of bad language and moving posts if they are in the wrong section.

Remember no one gets paid for the work they do, the events they provide and the time that they give.

Yes a Mod and Admin should be held at higher regard when theya re posting but we all slip as i did today. Will i be punished? Quite possibly and that is for Morph to decide.

[reeja19]

But why in the hell should you be punished for stating your opinion. I mean I don't agree with what was said, and it may have offended said person, but it is still you just stating an opinion. There may not be alot of things deleted, but within 5 minutes of me posting to a rude comment RD made about me it was removed. But his comment was left up overnight and only removed when I commented on what he said, which is complete BS in my opinion.

[Goo__ooG]

A site like this is nothing without the members who contribute to it.
They are the important factor, not the moderators and whether they get paid or not.
Without members, this site is just a bunch or moderators modding each other.

[Roughdawg4]

Well his opinion was abit harsh, but the closing of the topic was uncalled for.



And your friend mason's wasn't? Obviously you are just playing his side Reeja.


And I made sure to save a copy of what everything was said so I can share through emails :D

[reeja19]

Did I say Mason's comment was or wasn't harsh, NO ALL I DID WAS ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU ASKED DUDE.

[Roughdawg4]

But why in the hell should you be punished for stating your opinion. I mean I don't agree with what was said, and it may have offended said person, but it is still you just stating an opinion. There may not be alot of things deleted, but within 5 minutes of me posting to a rude comment RD made about me it was removed. But his comment was left up overnight and only removed when I commented on what he said, which is complete BS in my opinion.



You started it and you only interject your opinions to further fights. What you said was bs reeja and you know it, stop trying to play victim.

[reeja19]

Yeah ok, why don't we revive the topic so we can all see how you jumped on Mason. I am not playing favorites, and as history will show, you are involved in a hell of a lot more of this type of thing than I am.

[Roughdawg4]

Yeah a question about what you meant and you thought Interyernan was harsh, why not say both of them were harsh, or do you think the trash Mason posted in his messages were okay?

[reeja19]

Well you didnt ask if I thought Mason was harsh, and yes they were both being harsh, but that is usually what happens when people argue. However, if you look back at all my posts, I didn't say anything harsh. All I ever said about you on this site is why do you always get on Mason, and I will stand by that statement.

[Goo__ooG]

You guys better calm down or this thread will get deleted!

[Roughdawg4]

Well you didnt ask if I thought Mason was harsh, and yes they were both being harsh, but that is usually what happens when people argue. However, if you look back at all my posts, I didn't say anything harsh. All I ever said about you on this site is why do you always get on Mason, and I will stand by that statement.


But my point was that hey maybe its not me. I mean Mason and Dre, Mason and Interyernan, Mason and Me. I mean there is a pattern and like the fight today, I was not in it or on Mason. I only joined after he brought up my name twice.


And I do have proof :)

[interyernan]

A site like this is nothing without the members who contribute to it.
They are the important factor, not the moderators and whether they get paid or not.
Without members, this site is just a bunch or moderators modding each other.


You do have a valid point - but where is the line drawn? At what point do you turn round and say enough is enough?

Most of the altercations on the site are centered around a select group of people. Is the answer to simply let them say what they choose and hope that it doesn't offend anyone else in the cross fire. When left like this there are too many variables to consider. If this was an 18 certifacte game then i would say - open forum and lets go at it but its not.

I would also urge you to reflect on the comment about the "paid" issue. This site is provided to its members free of charge and is paid for and maintained by its STAFF! Morph has bared the greatest weight of this but i along with a few others have put hands in pockets and fronted up some money.

[Frozen_Walkers]

My 2 cents : My opinion on Moderators

Yuna: over protective of young members which is understandable and I always champion her for stand up against cheaters but like I've said before: the lite sexual content on this blog is the less of a problem for kids who's using internet and of course; majority of people here are adult [ seem like it no? ] individual responsibility should apply to all memebrs.

J-Mod: For the most part he's very straight with all member except that sometime he let his buddy getaway with lite sexual joke while mine got ban because it doen't meet Yuna's standard [ Target on my back? ]

Inter: Now; We've seen Inter came out and forbid people from asking question before. Best example is when RD step down. That was a dictator behavior but in retrospect he may did that in order to keep thing calm between certain member.

Mace: Of course he is the best player. it's difficult to argue anything relating gameplay with him, after all he had PB and stat to back up his theories. But he's quick to take a shot at RD whenever he have a chance which some of us had witness it this morning.

OP: he is very straight with all member. I personally think he should be the one who lay out the standard to all Moderators.


whatever happen to all the fun we used to have? I rarely tour HSG anymore simply because of all ego and 2 faces a lot of players impost on line.
this site was great at one point now it's became an adult playground for " authority " and " Ego "


My game progress because of this site and people here. I'm grateful to you all.


For those people who were stuck in G1 for forever and now is in G0 because of people here: Remember where you came from.

[reeja19]

Then why not make a sub forum for 18+ and be done with this. I don't want to argue with you RD so I am done discussing this, I will just agree to disagree and be done with it :)

[Roughdawg4]

Then why not make a sub forum for 18+ and be done with this. I don't want to argue with you RD so I am done discussing this, I will just agree to disagree and be done with it :)



I disagree with that.....wait I agree.....damn :)

[Elektropop]

Awwwwww, how cute. You two should hug now.

...

Do it. ;)

[ClayBoy31991]

You guys better calm down or this thread will get deleted!

Goo should be a moderator after that. I agree, this thread should be deleted. The arguments here are just rediculous, and I'm getting sick of it.

[Elektropop]

It's a healthy argument. No deleting!

[Roughdawg4]

Woah arguments and debates are way way different things. Me and Reeja just had a debate right now that was it.

[Goo__ooG]

You do have a valid point - but where is the line drawn? At what point do you turn round and say enough is enough?

Most of the altercations on the site are centered around a select group of people. Is the answer to simply let them say what they choose and hope that it doesn't offend anyone else in the cross fire. When left like this there are too many variables to consider. If this was an 18 certifacte game then i would say - open forum and lets go at it but its not.

I would also urge you to reflect on the comment about the "paid" issue. This site is provided to its members free of charge and is paid for and maintained by its STAFF! Morph has bared the greatest weight of this but i along with a few others have put hands in pockets and fronted up some money.

As I said before, unless it is racist, sexually abusive or a personal threat to someone's personal wellbeing.

Money has got nothing to do with it. You keep bringing that up. Did Youtube/Facebook/Bebo/Twitter or any other social site keep referring to that when they were starting up? No. How or why this site came about is not the concern of the people who use it. The fact that people want to use this site should be enough to keep its creators happy, if not then why bother. If money isn't an issue to Morph, then why should it be an issue to you.

Edit out swear words, fine ( I understand there are younger users on this site), but don't block people's opinions just because you can.

I said once before (months ago) that this site has the oportunity to grow and develope as the games do, but if you beat down the people who count, then you are left with nothing.

[Roughdawg4]

Thats not what he meant by money. He probably means that if you don't enjoy it and you aren't getting paid, why do it? Not meaning that he wants to get paid (hopefully that made sense)


And you brought up those examples, they all refer to Morpheus's position the creator, not people helping out.

[Roughdawg4]

The biggest problem with this site right now is the moderators and Frozen Walkers sort of eluded to the problem.


All the moderators have different views on what should be moderated. I really think you guys need to get together and figure it out. This is one of the reasons why I quit originally because people did what they wanted and there were really no guidelines. Then maybe you can post what is expected and what is fair game so there is no confusion.

[interyernan]

I agree that people shouldn't be beaten down for posting their opinions and debating arguments but when it goes off on a tangent (my wrongdoing earlier) that is where there should be an element of control.

Yes it maybe good viewing but is it in turn not hurting the site by advertising that all we ever do here is argue and call each other names? We have already had discussions in other topics that people feel traffic is down due to all the NFL and NHL topics being created. Where does the finger pointing stop?? or can it simply be contributed to the fact that not as many people are choosing to play the game as much as they once did??

It has been talked about having an 18+ area and maybe it is time to reconsider this idea. A place where certain issues could be hammered out without the need for mod intervention.

[Frozen_Walkers]

But what is a standard for sexual abusive or racist ? Mine got ban when it was a little sexual content while other not. Calling japanese players a " jap " is racist to some but not to other. I agree with everything you say so far but the problem is in the standard and quite honestly the " me me me authority "

[dirtdog91]

I think Yuna should throw a huge cookout at her place (your pepper garden looks great Yuna). Then after everyone builds up a few months worth of arguments, they can all have a ice cold beer together, it usually works with me and my buddies at least.

[Elektropop]

Debate = "healthy" argument, in my english :)

[kumanzc]

Let's debate the merits of giving awards for number of posts. I am willing to quote a post from this thread to state my case and I believe words won't even be needed to determine my side.

Am I on topic or off. How bout that new DLC.

[Roughdawg4]

As a former admin, I just don't understand where people think MOD = POWER TRIP, not one of them use it as oneupmanship over anyone, people could be banned at the touch of a button but do they? They could mod every f*cking post if they wanted to.


It is really hard to be unbiased.

[Goo__ooG]

I agree that people shouldn't be beaten down for posting their opinions and debating arguments but when it goes off on a tangent (my wrongdoing earlier) that is where there should be an element of control.

Yes it maybe good viewing but is it in turn not hurting the site by advertising that all we ever do here is argue and call each other names? We have already had discussions in other topics that people feel traffic is down due to all the NFL and NHL topics being created. Where does the finger pointing stop?? or can it simply be contributed to the fact that not as many people are choosing to play the game as much as they once did??

It has been talked about having an 18+ area and maybe it is time to reconsider this idea. A place where certain issues could be hammered out without the need for mod intervention.

I just don't get it.
Going off on a tangent is one of the great things that sites like this do.
Why shouldn't a post that started off "I got a PB on Highlands" end up discussing everything from Sophies sexiness to what car I just bought.
That's what people enjoy reading.

Digressing is something we all do and it's not a reason to start moderating threads.

At the end of the day, I would like to see this site get bigger and better in every way. But as it is, it's going to die on its arse

[Roughdawg4]

This site is already dying fast. The only thing keeping it alive are these debates :D

[Goo__ooG]

This site is already dying fast. The only thing keeping it alive are these debates :D

It would appear so!

[reeja19]

Goo should be a moderator after that. I agree, this thread should be deleted. The arguments here are just rediculous, and I'm getting sick of it.

Boo hoo Clay, there was no arguing in this thread, only discussion, and your only contribution to it was the worthless statement I quoted.

[Goo__ooG]

Boo hoo Clay, there was no arguing in this thread, only discussion, and your only contribution to it was the worthless statement I quoted.

He obviously didn't get sarcasm

[Roughdawg4]

MOD THOSE LAST TWO PEOPLE :D

[Goo__ooG]

MOD THOSE LAST TWO PEOPLE :D

[/I]

I bet they do aswell!!!

[Roughdawg4]

You know thats the only thing that I felt wierd about is when the poll was done for awards I was the most likely to mod a post when I think I was the most laid back person when it came to stuff.


Probably due to my sick and twisted mind :)

[Goo__ooG]

It says a lot about the site when you have an award for most likely to mod a post

[yunatidus4ever]

Sorry Froz, but someone having a drink of, um, ***** out of a cup is extremely high sexual content.

Also I would like to note I have only modded anyone 4 times in the past 2 months. And I have seen little to no moderation from anyone else.

That is all I am going to say. I could go into details but I REFUSE to explain myself to anyone, and I am sick of all the critism. Hardly anyone is willing to say, "good Job" to anyone, but always ready with the torch and pitchforks at ready!!!!!!

Thanks for your time, it is appreciated.

[Roughdawg4]

Its constructive criticism Yuna. Not sure about the rest, but I certainly would like to see things change and there is really nothing stated that shows what can and cannot be said. I think that could possibly help alot of the confusion

[Roughdawg4]

And that wasn't meant to slam in any kind of way either. Unless......nevermind ;)

[Goo__ooG]

Sorry Froz, but someone having a drink of, um, ***** out of a cup is extremely high sexual content.

Also I would like to note I have only modded anyone 4 times in the past 2 months. And I have seen little to no moderation from anyone else.

That is all I am going to say. I could go into details but I REFUSE to explain myself to anyone, and I am sick of all the critism. Hardly anyone is willing to say, "good Job" to anyone, but always ready with the torch and pitchforks at ready!!!!!!

Thanks for your time, it is appreciated.

Dare I say the reason no one is saying good job is because for over a month the highest number of visitors to the site was 42, until either Google Bots or Yahoo Spiders upped the numbers to 108.

There was a time when there was 100 odd members on at any one time.
Sadly those days are gone, and I can't help but feel it is because of the persistent over-ruling, modding etc.
Otherwise, this thread would never have been created

[Roughdawg4]

Or maybe I stopped posting as much and quit my admin abilities :)

[gypsyball]

Well.................... on the plus side this is the most activity that I've seen on the site in a while.

[interyernan]

Personally Goo i think you're focusing on one issue in a group of factors that could be contributed to the slow down of traffic on the site.

I would have to question how much "mod activity" you have seen on this since its change over since your join date states that you joined the site earlier today?

[Goo__ooG]

That's because it is an open discussion.

For the sake of this site it should be debated what role moderators have and how they contribute to the threads.

[Goo__ooG]

Personally Goo i think you're focusing on one issue in a group of factors that could be contributed to the slow down of traffic on the site.

I would have to question how much "mod activity" you have seen on this since its change over since your join date states that you joined the site earlier today?

As I said in my ealier post Inter, I was a frequent user of this site last year, obviously a different user name, but it is obivous to all what has happened over the past few months. Summer, football, NFL, you can say what you will, but you still see the same names playing the game so why have they stopped using the site? There is a reason

[interyernan]

No.... i am stating that you talk as if from experience as to how you have been over modded on this site, or seen the use of over modding on this site.
Since you joined today how can you have experience of this?

I am not trying to "dog you out" about this but i question whether you can give a valid argument to this "debate" if you are only basing it on what you have seen since joing earlier today and posting less than 20 times like you have.

[interyernan]

If i may ask....

what was your previous username please?

[Roughdawg4]

Yeah I am curious as well :)

[Goo__ooG]

No.... i am stating that you talk as if from experience as to how you have been over modded on this site, or seen the use of over modding on this site.
Since you joined today how can you have experience of this?

I am not trying to "dog you out" about this but i question whether you can give a valid argument to this "debate" if you are only basing it on what you have seen since joing earlier today and posting less than 20 times like you have.

Like I said twice now, I was a frequent user of the site. Stopped posting but always visited.
Have joined today under my new name.
I visited the site nearly every day and have done for longer than you have been a member, so I think I know what I am talking about

[interyernan]

Curious and curious, considering i've played the game since day 1?? Joined the site late yes, at the end of July last year.

So hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

[Frozen_Walkers]

I did say " I champion you for standing up against cheaters " Now; For those who is new to this site: Yuna is one of the few who always looking out for new players. she took heat from high level players who made 2nd account and steal pod from lower rank players. That's in many way better than " god job " at any rate, it's good to see people still care about this site. often time tropic will be off since there isn't much to say about this game at this point. Like Inter had pointed out before; New Dlc is needed for this game.

[gypsyball]

I feel like I'm reading the another forum That Is Least Modded Forum of any of the other forums I belong to.
This is based on my experiences there.

[Roughdawg4]

Like I said twice now, I was a frequent user of the site. Stopped posting but always visited.
Have joined today under my new name.
I visited the site nearly every day and have done for longer than you have been a member, so I think I know what I am talking about


Maybe from experience if you list it man, but not from this site. There is no way you have as much experience as some of the people. Heck, I have been here practically since day 1 and was one of the first admins here. I think if you are going to say you know what you are talking about, why not explain what you mean.


Just saying you do and wanting us to expect to believe it isn't really a good way of coming across.

[Goo__ooG]

Curious and curious, considering i've played the game since day 1?? Joined the site late yes, at the end of July last year.

So hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

So hmmm, my previous name was gally, joined in december 2008, but visited this site since late May 2008. Never joined because I didn't have World Tour. I used the site for tips on PSP game.

Don't make out like I'm trying to pull a fast one because, quite frankly, there's no point. It means nothing to me and it should mean nothing to you.
My point i simple.
I like the game, I like the site, but I don't like the way the site has changed over the past few months.

Too many people are trying to control everything about the site.
I'm quite happy to sign off again, but, to be honest, I feel it's a shame that a perfectly good site with many people interested in the content is going down the pan at such a rate that the people who make the site happen, can't even see its demise right in front of their own eyes

[Roughdawg4]

Did you post anything, that name rings a bell, don't know why though.

[Goo__ooG]

Did you post anything, that name rings a bell, don't know why though.

Because you and me fell out over that game on arcade, can't remember the game. YOu have to get the dot. You got 220 I think

[Roughdawg4]

Oh yeah Escrow or something like that right lol

[interyernan]

This isn't a witch hunt but why hide behind a name? You could have just said "hi it's Gally i'm back......" but you didn't.

I really don't see a vaild argument in this. In all honesty the staff have been far more relaxed due to myself, Morph and OP having personal commitments meaning we can not log in as much. Shaq and Cartman concentrating on events as opposed to modding and poor Yuna having to front up the bulk of the work.

If anything the mod activity has decreased.

Reeja's original post was intriguing and interesting but i kind of feel that you have used to to stir up a little storm and we are all biting.

You do also seem to be forgetting other factors that contribute to the traffic on the site. I've listed them elsewhere and if you want me to do so again i will do.

[Goo__ooG]

Plus i beat you on Hungry Bob and Space Invaders (not the right name I know)

Anyway, point is, why the hell does everyone want to try to stop the site being the best it can. For God's sake let it go and do its thing

[Frozen_Walkers]

I remember Gally. if my memories serve me right you are one of those people who take advantage of golf 1 on 1 right? I mean; I can see you love this site and I agree with a lot of thing you say but one thing I like to say [ from experienced ]
while I can see Inter and others Mod take a bit control over this site we can't overlooked what these people have done for our community and people who play this game. now to be extremely honest here. the saddest thing I experienced on this site is not the heavily moded or over protective of Yuna I can respect other people concerned and find common respect toward other members. But the saddest thing is when RD step down. He is the Best Mod who always help out everyone. I'm not kissing azz but let stop for a second and look back at what these people have done for this game and this site shall we?

[Goo__ooG]

This isn't a witch hunt but why hide behind a name? You could have just said "hi it's Gally i'm back......" but you didn't.

I really don't see a vaild argument in this. In all honesty the staff have been far more relaxed due to myself, Morph and OP having personal commitments meaning we can not log in as much. Shaq and Cartman concentrating on events as opposed to modding and poor Yuna having to front up the bulk of the work.

If anything the mod activity has decreased.

Reeja's original post was intriguing and interesting but i kind of feel that you have used to to stir up a little storm and we are all biting.

You do also seem to be forgetting other factors that contribute to the traffic on the site. I've listed them elsewhere and if you want me to do so again i will do.

OMG, why should I say "I'm back". You don't care and nobody else does.
I'm simply stating an opinion. And as this entire thread has stated, it is being shot down as being insignificant.

Good luck to you. You really do know how to ruin a good site

[interyernan]

Oh my word, i have not shot down this thread, are you feeling okay - i'm debating it aren't i?

I haven't even modded the F word RD placed in a post earlier in the topic.

You've used this topic to pretty much attack every single person that is and has been asked to do something for this site.

Fair enough you feel that there is an over modding issue, both Yuna and I in this topic have stated that we infact do less "modding" now than we ever have done.

I don't know how you can't sit there and justfy when all you want to do is attack me (mainly) and the other guys and girls that actually put a lot of effort into trying to run this site.

You think i want to ruin the site? If i want i could shut the place down with one click of my mouse? Do i? No!

Come on mate, ease up a bit and stop going for the throat all the time.

[Roughdawg4]

I said the F word, I am sorry I dont remember saying that, but I guess i did :)

[p1um5mu991er]

dayum the longest threads are almost always nasty arguments

[yunatidus4ever]

I remember Gally, you had the big smiley looking drunk avatar, right?

[Goo__ooG]

Oh my word, i have not shot down this thread, are you feeling okay - i'm debating it aren't i?

I haven't even modded the F word RD placed in a post earlier in the topic.

You've used this topic to pretty much attack every single person that is and has been asked to do something for this site.

Fair enough you feel that there is an over modding issue, both Yuna and I in this topic have stated that we infact do less "modding" now than we ever have done.

I don't know how you can't sit there and justfy when all you want to do is attack me (mainly) and the other guys and girls that actually put a lot of effort into trying to run this site.

You think i want to ruin the site? If i want i could shut the place down with one click of my mouse? Do i? No!

Come on mate, ease up a bit and stop going for the throat all the time.


OK, I'm done.

I do not want to come across as "going for the throat" or attacking people.
The site would run itself if you just let it.
And as for you "could shut the place down", we both know that's not true.

I'm not getting at you personally, but even you can admit that this site is not what it was. A bit of constructive criticism ( which is all it is) does not go amiss now and again. And, yes, I think I have given a good observation toward the site. And, like I said before, I like the site and hope that it dose well, but I do feel that maybe a reshuffle is needed.

Hey, we live in a world of free speech (I hope so anyway), and I'm not trying to offend you or anyone else on the site.

Good times to you and everyone else.

[interyernan]

I concur with constructive criticism but when the only point being put across is "over modding" it seems way to focused on one point.

Again there are other factors.

Lack of new courses and characters, tour variety etc etc its all been talked about.

[Goo__ooG]

I remember Gally, you had the big smiley looking drunk avatar, right?

Yeah Yuna, that was it.

By the way, if OthersGirl is reading, that was my so-called friend on my PS3 last night, not me. I have told him several times about that!!

[interyernan]

By the way, if OthersGirl is reading, that was my so-called friend on my PS3 last night, not me. I have told him several times about that!!

I've used this excuse with her a few times!?!?!:D;)

[Goo__ooG]

I've used this excuse with her a few times!?!?!:D;)

Yeah, but brother-in-laws do have a knack of totally ruining you stats (and friends) online, or is it just mine?

[reeja19]

Ok, well I just want to clarify my original statement abit. I am not saying there is too much modding, all i'm saying is that every time an argument breaks out, it is modded or cutoff before I get a chance to read it :D

Also, I would like to say that the people who takee time out of their lives to run and contribute to this site have my thanks and appreciation, and I wasn't trying to downplay all you people do.

My whole point is just let people argue, and if there is offensive language or something like that, well just mod that and let the argument run its course. If Mason and RD could have finished their initial argument, then what happened 2day may not have happened at all.

This is all just an opinion I threw out and if I offended anyone by it, well tough :p

[interyernan]

Nope not just you. My friend Super G-73 who is (being politically correct) not G0 standard, comes round to mine and plays a few games and completely kills my stats.

When he gets together with another one of our friends Fact_hunt they like to talk trash to people in the lobbies so i tend ot try and get the keyboard away from them quick.

[p1um5mu991er]

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr278/rodparsley/001f8sk0.jpg?t=1253229307

whatta buncha readin'

[interyernan]

Its alright Reeja i think you have a valid point and its something that needs to be looked at.

[gypsyball]

this has got to be one of the hottest topics since rd left his mod post.

[Roughdawg4]

Yeah Reeja I am sure you are right, you cut-off an argument and its not settled, it just will continue again. People want to get their feel feelings out and if they don't it just upsets them.


Look at the end of the day, we need something clarified. Either we can do certain things or we can't. I realize a few things were said in the last topic that I thought went personal and thats over the line. You shouldn't be personally attacking other members, period. I mean sometimes arguments go and then I see stuff moderated because we have 10 year olds on the site.

[Roughdawg4]

this has got to be one of the hottest topics since rd left his mod post.



Its right up there with the Mets Suck thread :)

[jleviathan]

um question is there a list of socalled offencive words?
maybe i wouldnt have said one if I knew $hit was 1 of them

[ClayBoy31991]

Boo hoo Clay, there was no arguing in this thread, only discussion, and your only contribution to it was the worthless statement I quoted.

I thought I knew Reeja, I thought he was nice too, but calling my statement worthless is absolute BS, and you know it.

[ClayBoy31991]

He obviously didn't get sarcasm

You're right, I struggle with sarcasm, so what? It's a mental problem.

Also, I remember you Goo_ooG. You were gally78 with the drunken smiley face avatar. I thought you also had Go_oG as a name as well, didn't you? You played in the arcade a lot back then. You used to post more than Gypsyball does now. I thought something bad happened to you, but it's great to see you again. :)

[ClayBoy31991]

MOD THOSE LAST TWO PEOPLE :D

I would, but what is there to mod? I could've deleted those posts if I wanted to and accept the punishment for doing that, but I don't want to be punished.

Also, I modded every curse word in this topic, from Dawg's F-word on the top of the 5th page to jlev's S-word on this page. Now, let the modding debate continue please. :) :) :)

[gypsyball]

''grab your ******* friend and love him''
jim morrison in miami 1969.

[ghost33]

the site has made some drastic changes for the worse.once the "hsg police"took over yes things are cut short very fast.some ppl just cant handle debates and other peoples views.then the name calling comes and thats what they are trying to avoid.it gets way to personal in here.i think the combination of deleting posts and topics and the switch to the new site and a few other things has really made things die out around here.i myself do not post much about actual hsg stuff.but it is gr8 to discuss other topics with ppl i know i have one thing in common with.

[ghost33]

and clayboy u have advertised this arcade thing a million times we get the picture buddy.

[Airscoots]

LOL Page # what?

The good news of the day is you all made me laugh. I tried to read threw most of this, but as the moons passed I decided to skip to the end. I guess the proof is in the pudding though, a heated topic equals people posting. Hmmmmm...

Maybe let the kids go elsewhere and remember the internet is for adults (mainly) and we are all only 1 click away from porn. (well some might be a couple) Hehe.

Oh yeah, and if you don't like something, here's kind of a conservative thought, don't read it or log out and go yodel.

Love all you HSG fools

[Light_kraze]

if I wanted to and accept the punishment for doing that, but I don't want to be punished.


lol... sooooooooooooooooooooo .......

[Roughdawg4]

Clayboy what i said was a joke about modding, wasn't to be taken serious but I thought you would have figured that out by now.



There is always sports Ghost, but yeah the actual golf side of it seems to have died down alot.

[ClayBoy31991]

and clayboy u have advertised this arcade thing a million times we get the picture buddy.

I made that arcade thing my signature for a reason. The arcade is cool, and it doesn't get a lot of attention when it should. It's there for a reason. Tournaments are there for a reason. Play some Arcade games and be happy! :D

[Roughdawg4]

LOL Page # what?

The good news of the day is you all made me laugh. I tried to read threw most of this, but as the moons passed I decided to skip to the end. I guess the proof is in the pudding though, a heated topic equals people posting. Hmmmmm...

Maybe let the kids go elsewhere and remember the internet is for adults (mainly) and we are all only 1 click away from porn. (well some might be a couple) Hehe.

Oh yeah, and if you don't like something, here's kind of a conservative thought, don't read it or log out and go yodel.

Love all you HSG fools




Hey I saw this really cool thing on A&E where you can control a laptop with your brain. With your freaking brain, can you imagine not even being one click away. :D

[Roughdawg4]

Yeah the signature is a little obnoxious man, maybe you can tone down the font size a little :)

[ClayBoy31991]

[QUOTE=Roughdawg4;71661]Clayboy what i said was a joke about modding, wasn't to be taken serious but I thought you would have figured that out by now.
QUOTE]

I understand that I probably shouldn't have modded those words, but I did that bcuz of Reeja and Goo_ooG and their disgraceful comments, and I probably shouldn't have done that, but I did, and I'm sorry.

[gypsyball]

Yeah the signature is a little obnoxious man, maybe you can tone down the font size a little :)
hmmm that gives me an idea. :D

[ClayBoy31991]

Yeah the signature is a little obnoxious man, maybe you can tone down the font size a little :)

I knew somebody would say my signature was a lil annoying. I made it like that to let everyone know about the arcade, especially new folks. I probably will reduce the font size later on. Maybe it being bold is what's making it obnoxious, and I'm sorry for that. The arcade's gotta get some attention too you know.

[Light_kraze]

Hey I saw this really cool thing on A&E where you can control a laptop with your brain. With your freaking brain, can you imagine not even being one click away. :D


Omg ! Gimme the name of that laptop O__o ... Now thats something worth Discussing ! rather than who's mother is fat..ter ...

disgraceful comments

In the honor Of china ..!

[ClayBoy31991]

Gally says that there has been too much moderation going on here as of late. Well, mods moderate things for a lot of reasons, and my 2 main reasons are: 1, avoid having younger people seeing bad things like curse words and sexual content. Curse words and sexual content is ruining the youth of today. 2, prevent arguments from getting out of hand. If you're gonna fight and argue, good, but don't do it here. Do it somewhere else. We also don't want the younger folks to see disrespectful arguments either. I hope you guys understand what I'm saying here.

[Roughdawg4]

It isn't a laptop, its more like a device that would hook to your laptop :cool:

[Light_kraze]

It isn't a laptop, its more like a device that would hook to your laptop :cool:

Ohhhhhhhhh okay then im not interested. :P

[Airscoots]

Clayboy, completely respect your opinion and it is good that people out there are still trying to be respectful, descent human beings. The problem is this isn't a town hall meeting. If you haven't noticed numbers are a dwindling. So when everyone quits posting here and your off playing the arcade by yourself and a couple kids are chatting on here what will the purpose of this site be?

I'm not trying to jump in the deep end here, it's just reading through this some people let their emotion get in the way of the truth. I don't think people are trying to directly attack the mods, they are just trying to point out this site could thrive with a little controversy such as this. Bad advertising is a lot better than no advertising.

I wasn't on for the whole mace, rd, reej thing but I know they are all strongly opionated people who help sites like this last. If anything you should give them each their own blog and let them spark up some fires.

To each his own!

[gypsyball]

like inter said we could use a 18 and over only section on this board.

[ClayBoy31991]

Yes, I agree that modding could be better, but we're all human. We all make mistakes and we'll admit that.

You know, sometimes I ask myself if I should quit my role as a mod. I seem to mod too many things that tend to upset people. The problem is, I love this position as a mod. I like to call this my first job, except we(the mods) don't get paid. If we got paid, then we wouldn't have to leave the house(or the chair we sit on every time we visit this site). ;)

[Airscoots]

Thats find gypsy, but I'm pretty sure a 12 year old can figure out how to click on the 18 year old section. That was my point earlier in stating that porn is 1 click away. Lets not forget if they are on the internet they should either be monitored by their PARENTS :/ or they are going to find the bad stuff anyway.

If I ran this site I would simply block terrible language and things we can all agree on like nasty graphic sexual content. Other than that if you wanted to come on and tell everyone so and so really sucks at HSG or this person always gets lucky I wouldn't see a problem with that.

People seem to like to read the banter between RD and Mason so lets ring the bell and bring on round 2. 3? 4? Well, whatever round it is.

*Think of a different website*

Dang, didn't work, well tried.

[gypsyball]

i recall the old site had a censore feature, maybe it needs to be turned on here.

[Airscoots]

Well all this chat has cost me a couple of g0 tournaments so on with the real life that is called Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds.

Good Morning, and in case I don't see you again, Good Afternoon, Good Evening and Good Night!

[Roughdawg4]

I suggested in the past when I was an admin that we should have a mature board, but it got shot down pretty fast.


Maybe it might get re-looked at, but I don't see it happening. And I am with you airscoots, I wish they really would let us speak our mind. I am all for that :)

[Roughdawg4]

And actually this brings me to another point, why are we pandering to 10 year olds. I mean most sites have a 13 to 14 year old restriction and I am not saying place one, but I think that these people need to realize that certain things are going to get said.



I suggest EARMUFFS !:D

[Airscoots]

Oh yeah, and btw that is my son's golf swing at age 6. Very proud I am.

Side note: He is now 8 and I don't allow him to go on the internet though he does play the ps3 online. I monitor him, usually have no problems. Sometimes I have to mute the tv and *chuckles* had to lie to him and tell him FuxWhateva miss spelled Fox. My excuse was he is canadian (well of course) LOLOLOL

[Light_kraze]

lie to him and tell him FuxWhateva miss spelled Fox.


Why lie to him? isn't that the truth? ........... *gasp!*

[Airscoots]

Ut oh, like letting the neighbor kid know that Santa's not real.

[p1um5mu991er]

hi SPOOTS

whatta we talkin' bout here

oh ya

just delete stupidity

[Light_kraze]

Ut oh, like letting the neighbor kid know that Santa's not real.


*GASP!!*
WHAT THE POTATOES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT !!!!

[Airscoots]

Hey, 8um5niffer is my name for you, ha and p1. I guess GuY.

[Airscoots]

L_K, that's probably gonna get modded Huh? Santa thing. Dohhhh!

[Light_kraze]

Yeah , stuff that are not suitable for minors and may hurt them emotionally or mentally are to be removed .. so that's gonna be modded ...

either that or its gonna be modded as a reference to sexual abuse.

You have Disgraced the honor of this land ! hsg.lol will never forgive you.

[Airscoots]

Sexual abuse???

[Light_kraze]

Yeah Apparently There was this guy that was dressed up as santa that was involved in a sexual abuse case so , just to be sure , it has to be modded in-case that was the intention of ur comment ! to be on the safe side .. so that children that visit this site won't be exposed to such Aggresive Cases !!


-P.S i luv u :P-

[ClayBoy31991]

Yeah the signature is a little obnoxious man, maybe you can tone down the font size a little :)

I changed my signature. Better? Font size smaller, no bold font, but should I leave it all caps?

[Roughdawg4]

Yeah man million times better, before it took up alot of the screen now it looks better.

[ClayBoy31991]

before it took up alot of the screen

Sorry about that. I do feel like I was a lil too pushy when it came to informing people about the arcade.

[Frozen_Walkers]

To airscoots and those open minded people.

My point exactly !!!!! Cuss words and sexual jokes are the less problem for kids who are using internet. Maybe those kids are retarded and don't know better, maybe those kids lacks individual responsibility or maybe their parent lacking parental skills so they try to tell the world to do what right for them well guess what? put your kid in the bubble wrap if you think cuss words and sexual jokes 'd ruin them. The policing internet [ or this blog ] is a joke. what next? asking people not to cuss in tournament because some GD 10 years old is playing? Get a life.....


SUPPORT FREE SPEECH

[ClayBoy31991]

While I do feel that all curse words and all sexual content should be modded, I agree with F_W, SUPPORT FREE SPEECH.

[Roughdawg4]

To airscoots and those open minded people.

My point exactly !!!!! Cuss words and sexual jokes are the less problem for kids who are using internet. Maybe those kids are retarded and don't know better, maybe those kids lacks individual responsibility or maybe their parent lacking parental skills so they try to tell the world to do what right for them well guess what? put your kid in the bubble wrap if you think cuss words and sexual jokes 'd ruin them. The policing internet [ or this blog ] is a joke. what next? asking people not to cuss in tournament because some GD 10 years old is playing? Get a life.....


SUPPORT FREE SPEECH



FW for President :)

[p1um5mu991er]

we can talk about retarded kids here?

brb

[Light_kraze]

we can talk about retarded kids here?

brb

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr278/rodparsley/001f8sk0.jpg?t=1253207651

[yunatidus4ever]

To airscoots and those open minded people.

My point exactly !!!!! Cuss words and sexual jokes are the less problem for kids who are using internet. Maybe those kids are retarded and don't know better, maybe those kids lacks individual responsibility or maybe their parent lacking parental skills so they try to tell the world to do what right for them well guess what? put your kid in the bubble wrap if you think cuss words and sexual jokes 'd ruin them. The policing internet [ or this blog ] is a joke. what next? asking people not to cuss in tournament because some GD 10 years old is playing? Get a life.....


SUPPORT FREE SPEECH

I do have a life, and that is EXACTLY what I would do if I knew a young one was in a tour with us. Ask around, I already have.

[Optimus_Prime]

Folks, I just wanted to let you know that this subject is currently being discussed by the lead staff. I would love to say that a solution is on the table that would appeal to everyone, but unfortunately this is not an easy decision. Potentially making it harder is--and I could be wrong--that not many of you have put forth strong, well-reasoned arguments to allow profanity and explicit sexual discussion (let alone leaving personal wars to play out as they wish). It seems, rather, that some of you would prefer to make a joke out of all of this, or even paint the volunteers who mod these boards as overbearing police when they are simply trying to follow the current philosophy set forth by the site owner (who, by the way, pays out of his own pocket to keep this free forum running).

There's a difference between comments and substantive suggestions. If you want to leave this as more of a comment thread, so be it. Nothing wrong with leaving some comments about something you like or don't like about the site. However, if you are serious about wanting to allow more adult conversations, I would suggest to summarize the benefits of what you are arguing for and to provide some evidence or logical reasoning to support it. Then other people could add to it or simply agree (as opposed to saying, "Oh noes, they gonna mod me!").

It's up to you whether you want this to be taken seriously or not. I had intended to stay out of this discussion and see what organically grew out of it, but I decided to write this to let you know that you could be missing a golden opportunity here.

[Goo__ooG]

I seem to mod too many things that tend to upset people. The problem is, I love this position as a mod. I like to call this my first job, except we(the mods) don't get paid.). ;)

[QUOTE=Roughdawg4;71661] I understand that I probably shouldn't have modded those words, but I did that bcuz of Reeja and Goo_ooG and their disgraceful comments, and I probably shouldn't have done that, but I did, and I'm sorry.

This is a prime example of one person just editing or removing posts for the sake of it.
Obviously thinks he is important because he has been given a role of moderator. Misguided!

My comment certainly was not disgraceful. He obviously didn't like it and removed it.

And once again the point of not getting paid is brought up. And Op Prime brought this up also.
Money has nothing to do with the people who use this site.
If Morpheus doesn't want to use his own money, then just close the website. I don't believe people will be throwing themselves off a bridge as a result. The emphasis being made on this being a free site means nothing. If money means that much, add a joining fee and see how many stick around then. And before you reply with "well why are you here?" I am on this site because I enjoy reading some of the posts and the info for the game is very informative. But talk about living in a nanny state,I think you have just invented the first nanny site.

You guys are losing the point of what is actually being said here.
I don't think anyone wants this site to become full of sexual/abusive comments. That is not the issue.
What is being said is, when there are jumped up little people such as Clayboy removing posts and topics just because he can and for no good reason.

[Frozen_Walkers]

Very well Gally and OP.

May I suggest some sort of voting on the issue? Let our members speak their mind. and like Gally say, the issue is not that we wanted to post sexual joke every 5 minutes but we want to see fairness to all. Many decision had been made base on emotion rather than logic and it's hurt this community, worse, it had made side and isolation on this community.

Some people don't want to post simply because they don't want to offense anyone but if we all vote on issue ?

Fairness / adult playground
G rate / 3 kids own this place

OK that wasn't funny but essentially it's what happening here.

[dimskill]

Impressive that this could grow after just a day, and an indicator of passionate opinion that can be stirred up by someone passing on a relatively minor quibble. As far as I can see, there is not over-moderation, but I don't inhabit every corner of the site. If a specific comment that someone has left, and feels strongly about, gets modded, they will be annoyed. It is from this that all of the argument/debate/thread has grown. So rather than continual modding, it is modding on ONE occasion, which is very different from the idea of surveillance police suggested. There has to be a point where a line is drawn. Some people may draw it sooner than maybe I would, but that will always be the way.

As a rather cynical aside, free speech is a myth. Thought is free, but speech most definitely isn't. There are some places where it's less regulated than others, but it is never free.

[johnboru]

It's hardly surprising that anything 'deemed offensive to minors' is banned or frowned upon here. Are all, if not all a majority, of Mods and Admins from the U.S? The very same nation that has failed to find a distributor for a brilliant new movie called Creation because religious America is too uptight to allow freedom of thought.

Here's a link to the story - very sad (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html)

Funny how us Atheists never seem to have any rights at all. Robin Hood is believable as Jesus Christ but if I started to preach about his virtues and ask people to follow him or form a religion based on his beliefs, I would be considered a wacko....

... as for the Moon landings.

[dimskill]

Interesting point JB. There are three of us non-americans, although two live in the same house, Inter, myself and DC. And while I wouldn't want to get into a stream of Yank-bashing, this is the country that elected George W Bush TWICE, and thinks Ronald Reagan was the best president since Abraham Lincoln.

Mind you, they let outrageous violence pass as entertainment, yet when Janet Jackson has a "wardrobe malfunction", the TV station gets fined a shedload of cash. When that happened to Judy Finnegan we just laughed.
YouTube - Judy Finnigan - Wardrobe Malfunction

[Frozen_Walkers]

Thanks for the link. It is sad indeed John. while I am an Agnostic and a film maker my project got shot down/ turn down simply because of they fear it might offense the higher human being who have god on their side. but then again one of my master piece involve a talking vibrator . sad sad sad.

and for free speech isn't all free. Yes I agree I would never cuss on children playground but this site is an adult playground [ ok mostly adult ]

[Frozen_Walkers]

Interesting point JB. There are three of us non-americans, although two live in the same house, Inter, myself and DC. And while I wouldn't want to get into a stream of Yank-bashing, this is the country that elected George W Bush TWICE, and thinks Ronald Reagan was the best president since Abraham Lincoln.

It's sad when people obey to fear rather than daring and questioning authority. My guess is is long as they can enjoy cheap beer and nascar eh?

[interyernan]

Got to say i don't agree with the way you are putting your point across Gally/Goo_ooG. As much as i respect your opinions you seem to just want to go out of your way to openly bash people who have a little responsibility on here.
Clay does a very good job and all you're trying to do is shoot him down for trying to help everyone out. Am i right in saying that during this topic he didn't remove any posts simplyu edited a couple of swear words??

Anyway i've got a busy weekend ahead of me i#ll try and dip into the conversation as and when i can.

Remember though please try to steer clear of words like ****, ****, bollocks, arsehole, wanker, twat, cock etc. They really are quite offensive!

[johnboru]

Remember though please try to steer clear of words like ****, ****, bollocks, arsehole, wanker, twat, cock etc. They really are quit offensive!

Inter, I implore you to amend that offensive section of your post. It's QUITE not QUIT.

[The-Dreamcaster]

and for free speech isn't all free. Yes I agree I would never cuss on children playground but this site is an adult playground [ ok mostly adult]

Or old enough to not really be fussed.

To be honest, the engaging topics don't get deleted for being engaging, its just the people involved tend to get a little carried away and start flaming each other about who has the bigger appendage, whos better at golf and such. The moment the engaging topic turns into a ego fight, is the moment the moderating team has to deal with it. I mean most of us are adults, just sometimes an argument boils down to something that could be mistaken for a couple of 12 year olds fighting.

to an extent, this site is slightly over moderated, but if wasn't for the moderating team, it would be a lot less friendly community.
The fact that traffic has gone down because of over moderating is totally mad. This currently iteration of the game is getting relatively old and since the site switch over, maby people didn't re-register there accounts. However, new members are joining every day, so its still a pretty popular site.
When the next game comes out, whether it bwe Everybody's Golf 6, or Open Tee 3, we WILL see another rise in traffic.

just my thoughts. (1600th post lawl)

[gypsyball]

0.0 wow i thought i was reading the blue cheer forum, and not the hsg forum.

[interyernan]

Good catch John, Thank you.

[asg28]

Interesting point JB. There are three of us non-americans, although two live in the same house, Inter, myself and DC. And while I wouldn't want to get into a stream of Yank-bashing, this is the country that elected George W Bush TWICE, and thinks Ronald Reagan was the best president since Abraham Lincoln.

Mind you, they let outrageous violence pass as entertainment, yet when Janet Jackson has a "wardrobe malfunction", the TV station gets fined a shedload of cash. When that happened to Judy Finnegan we just laughed.
YouTube - Judy Finnigan - Wardrobe Malfunction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0apAF7GXPz4)

Dims I'm outraged by what you say in this post......

I'm also a non-american mod ;)

[gypsyball]

Stupid question, can guests read this thread?

[gypsyball]

Got to say i don't agree with the way you are putting your point across Gally/Goo_ooG. As much as i respect your opinions you seem to just want to go out of your way to openly bash people who have a little responsibility on here.
Clay does a very good job and all you're trying to do is shoot him down for trying to help everyone out. Am i right in saying that during this topic he didn't remove any posts simplyu edited a couple of swear words??

Anyway i've got a busy weekend ahead of me i#ll try and dip into the conversation as and when i can.

Remember though please try to steer clear of words like *MASSIVE CENSOR* etc. They really are quite offensive!
This is becoming a very interesting debate, a bit heated at times, but very interesting to say the least.

[Roughdawg4]

This is a prime example of one person just editing or removing posts for the sake of it.
Obviously thinks he is important because he has been given a role of moderator. Misguided!

My comment certainly was not disgraceful. He obviously didn't like it and removed it.

And once again the point of not getting paid is brought up. And Op Prime brought this up also.
Money has nothing to do with the people who use this site.
If Morpheus doesn't want to use his own money, then just close the website. I don't believe people will be throwing themselves off a bridge as a result. The emphasis being made on this being a free site means nothing. If money means that much, add a joining fee and see how many stick around then. And before you reply with "well why are you here?" I am on this site because I enjoy reading some of the posts and the info for the game is very informative. But talk about living in a nanny state,I think you have just invented the first nanny site.

You guys are losing the point of what is actually being said here. I am a disgrace to quotes everywhere.


WTF I never said that, dude if you are going to quote me why don't you actually use what I said, not put up a quote that someone didn't really use

[Roughdawg4]

Got to say i don't agree with the way you are putting your point across Gally/Goo_ooG. As much as i respect your opinions you seem to just want to go out of your way to openly bash people who have a little responsibility on here.
Clay does a very good job and all you're trying to do is shoot him down for trying to help everyone out. Am i right in saying that during this topic he didn't remove any posts simplyu edited a couple of swear words??

Anyway i've got a busy weekend ahead of me i#ll try and dip into the conversation as and when i can.

Remember though please try to steer clear of words like ****, ****, bollocks, arsehole, wanker, twat, cock etc. They really are quite offensive!


Yeah and I didn't remove any of the topics either lol because last time I checked I am no longer an admin :)


I think someone is a few bolts short around here anyway.


But seriously, this is a great idea to let it be say anything. I think one of the things that should still be in place is I feel in no way should you personally attack another member. There is never any place for that. I think anything else in good taste, should be fine.

[Roughdawg4]

I am looking forward to the joke board maybe getting lit up a little bit. I know I have read some hilarious jokes before they were modded and I know everyone has some dirty jokes.

[ClayBoy31991]

Clay does a very good job and all you're trying to do is shoot him down for trying to help everyone out. Am i right in saying that during this topic he didn't remove any posts simplyu edited a couple of swear words??

I DID NOT remove any comments. Just edited a few curse words and thats all.

Gally's just trying to pi$$ me off just like he has to everyone else here...oh wait, he already did pi$$ me off on the 5th page when he said I didn't get sarcasm.

[Roughdawg4]

I DID NOT remove any comments. Just edited a few curse words and thats all.

Gally's just trying to pi$$ me off just like he has to everyone else here...oh wait, he already did pi$$ me off on the 5th page when he said I didn't get sarcasm.


I know me and you played with him alot in the arcade back in the day. I will have to look it up but I put a crazy score for ascrow and remember he said I must have cheated :)

[ClayBoy31991]

The game was actually called Eskiv, and yeah, I remember you putting up that big number in that game, just like you had done for like every arcade game(or at least it felt like every game to me before Elguapo came along, lol).

[Goo__ooG]

WTF I never said that, dude if you are going to quote me why don't you actually use what I said, not put up a quote that someone didn't really use

Whoa, back up. I lifted that quote from ClayBoy and I don't know why your name was on top of it..

And Clay, I am not trying to, as you say, pi$$ you off and I don't think i am pi$$ing everyone else off either. Just a few!!!

Anywhooo, Eskiv was the game and by the way RD, I did not say you cheated. I said it was possible to cheat and so would not be playing it again. There is a difference.

Blah, can't be bothered.
I got Minna yesterday. Quality on there is something else.

[The-Dreamcaster]

yeah, i'm still thinking about getting Minna, but i'd need a dlc hook up from some1.
Fair play Goo_ooG. Eskiv was fun but just a game, so lets not argue about trivial things hmm :)

[Goo__ooG]

Yeah, I've held off buying the extra courses etc, but the updates took nearly two hours to download last night. Went on... and on... and on... and on... on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...on... and on... and on... and on...

[The-Dreamcaster]

buying the extra courses woulda made on difference to the update length, the updates in game are the actual courses, characters and extra stuff to download, the things you buy from the playstation store is the unlock key for this stuff. but when i got my new ps3 it did take about 2 hours to get everything going..

[p1um5mu991er]

here's a forum for howard stern fans, take a look at it if you're over 18 i suppose

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=2

what percentage of our community would not find this to be offensive? just putting this out there as an example of a community with very little restrictions. they do, however, have a 'time-out' subforum where suspended accounts are sent that either a) threatened someone or b) criticized howard's wife beth. funny, huh--even the most lax communities still have rules

[clint_westwood]

the tail has wagged the dog here for a long long time, communism at its finest , with the majority of us jumping over the wall into safe sanctuary of west germany (ok lets pretend its 1988) a true nanny state "pardon the pun"

[gypsyball]

:eek:WOW!!! 17 pages in 2 days, thats got to be a record for here:eek:

[p1um5mu991er]

it's takin' up way too much bandwidth

delete it

[gypsyball]

it's takin' up way too much bandwidth

delete it


http://www.thegamesvillage.com/forums/upfiles/smiley/sign_approvenot.gif

[ClayBoy31991]

it's takin' up way too much bandwidth

delete it

http://www.thegamesvillage.com/forums/upfiles/smiley/sign_approve.gif (javascript:void(opener.addSmiley('body1','http://www.thegamesvillage.com/forums/upfiles/smiley/sign_approve.gif'));self.focus();)

[gypsyball]

it's takin' up way too much bandwidth

delete it
Don't you mean hard drive space:confused:

[Roughdawg4]

the tail has wagged the dog here for a long long time, communism at its finest , with the majority of us jumping over the wall into safe sanctuary of west germany (ok lets pretend its 1988) a true nanny state "pardon the pun"


lol so true man, so true :)



And I love the comment about this topic taking up too much space because the site is just beaming with activity lately :rolleyes:

[gypsyball]

And I love the comment about this topic taking up too much space because the site is just beaming with activity lately :rolleyes:
Thats a positive thing for this site.

[ClayBoy31991]

At this rate, this topic will have more views and more replies than the G0 winners topic, and that may happen soon.

[gypsyball]

At this rate, this topic will have more views and more replies than the G0 winners topic, and that may happen soon.
and maybe even the I Love Bacon topic:eek:

[p1um5mu991er]

i sure do love irony

bacon ain't bad either

[ClayBoy31991]

This topic already has more views than the bacon topic, but not more replies than that topic, but I'm sure this will get upto 200 replies soon.

[gypsyball]

This topic already has more views than the bacon topic, but not more replies than that topic, but I'm sure this will get upto 200 replies soon.
WOW:eek: this topic has more view than the bacon topic, and that is in 2 days, while the bacon topic has been around for 5 months:eek:

[Roughdawg4]

Thats because the debates are more entertaining than the game. :)

[gypsyball]

Thats because the debates are more entertaining than the game. :)
So true.

[ClayBoy31991]

Thats because the debates are more entertaining than the game. :)

I agree...oh wait, I don't play any other HSG games besides 3 and 4 bcuz, well, I assume you all know why by now.

[gypsyball]

I agree...oh wait, I don't play any other HSG games besides 3 and 4 bcuz, well, I assume you all know why by now.
Man I really wish you had a PS3:( But lets say you got one as a surprise gift, what user name would you use? Since Clayboy has already been taken:eek::mad:

[ClayBoy31991]

Add 31991. :)

[gypsyball]

Add 31991. :)
http://www.thegamesvillage.com/forums/upfiles/smiley/signz_rolleyes.gif oh yeah that would work.

[Roughdawg4]

Uh huh


YouTube - The Waterboy - Don't Smoke Crack

[Goo__ooG]

You gonna have to do better than that

[ClayBoy31991]

I did, and I'm sorry for doing that after you said it was a joke in another thread. I'll try not to do that again, and next time, I'll think carefully about it. Again, I'm sorry.

Like I said before, us mods make mistakes, we admit it, and we learn from our mistakes, and I'll accept any punishment given(if any). I feel so bad at the moment.

[Ragefire18]

Hi guys been a while since i've posted but wanted to put my 2 cents in if anyone is interested.

I am a moderator myself for a different site ( family friendly ) and believe it or not there's a discussion brought up there recently about forming an 'over 18' section. I don't know if this is any help to you all but we have a help section with specific forum rules which apply to posting : http://www.funkysnooker.com/help/chat_room_rules

And just if your interested here's what's being said over there about the 'over 18' forum : http://www.funkysnooker.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=6052

I guess what it boils down to is do you want the site to be family friendly or not which is a choice for Morpheus to make.

I don't play HSG as much as i used to but i do still pop on here most days to have a look at the most recent topics and it's true that most of them these days don't really interest me which is why i don't post but that's just me ( not that i used to post much anyhow ), different people have different interests.

Needless to say i think the best way forward is to have a set of rules which everyone can see and abide by which makes moderating possible whether this be swearing allowed or not is up to the chief but something needs to be in writing which the moderators can turn to and it will make everyones life easier in my opinion.

Take care and i'll be reading :p

Rage.

[Frozen_Walkers]

Hey Clayboy ! You are alright man. You actually admit your mistake right away and probably do some thinking before admitting your mistake. 5 points for you :D

[p1um5mu991er]

dag, i want some points

how many does it take to get promoted a grade

[ClayBoy31991]

Hey Clayboy ! You are alright man. You actually admit your mistake right away and probably do some thinking before admitting your mistake. 5 points for you :D

Thank you F_W. Being a moderator can be difficult and stressful, as it showed just a few moments ago. I say everything is cool now and all of us can move on(but let this thread live on).

[Goo__ooG]

I did, and I'm sorry for doing that after you said it was a joke in another thread. I'll try not to do that again, and next time, I'll think carefully about it. Again, I'm sorry.

Like I said before, us mods make mistakes, we admit it, and we learn from our mistakes, and I'll accept any punishment given(if any). I feel so bad at the moment.

Meah, don't worry about it.
It's all good fun

[ClayBoy31991]

Meah, don't worry about it.
It's all good fun

Cool, everything's good now. :)

[Frozen_Walkers]

I'm curious since money had been on this tropic a few time; How much money do one need to maintain a site like this? monthly, weekly , yearly? any ideas? and how much to set up ? No I'm not looking to create one; just curious.


I

[Roughdawg4]

I don't know but he has put a decent amount of money last time I knew into the site. Also a few domain names have been bought and those aren't cheap either, they can start to add up.

[gypsyball]

I don't know but he has put a decent amount of money last time I knew into the site. Also a few domain names have been bought and those aren't cheap either, they can start to add up.
All I have to say is, it takes a lot of dedication to keep this site up. Keep up the good work Morpheus:cool:

[Optimus_Prime]

Hi guys been a while since i've posted but wanted to put my 2 cents in if anyone is interested.

I am a moderator myself for a different site ( family friendly ) and believe it or not there's a discussion brought up there recently about forming an 'over 18' section. I don't know if this is any help to you all but we have a help section with specific forum rules which apply to posting : http://www.funkysnooker.com/help/chat_room_rules

And just if your interested here's what's being said over there about the 'over 18' forum : http://www.funkysnooker.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=6052

I guess what it boils down to is do you want the site to be family friendly or not which is a choice for Morpheus to make.

I don't play HSG as much as i used to but i do still pop on here most days to have a look at the most recent topics and it's true that most of them these days don't really interest me which is why i don't post but that's just me ( not that i used to post much anyhow ), different people have different interests.

Needless to say i think the best way forward is to have a set of rules which everyone can see and abide by which makes moderating possible whether this be swearing allowed or not is up to the chief but something needs to be in writing which the moderators can turn to and it will make everyones life easier in my opinion.

Take care and i'll be reading :p

Rage.

Rage, thank you for posting this! Very thoughtful and much appreciated. :)

[Roughdawg4]

I read them and I am proud to say I think we have a more mature community, don't know how it is possible but thank god :)

[Frozen_Walkers]

I read them and I am proud to say I think we have a more mature community, don't know how it is possible but thank god :)


But I've always wonder about the colors of rainbow :(

also, I like to get one of them Sarcasm Detector for Clayboy

[flare074]

How about this: every time you want to post something sarcastic, post it in yellow.

[gypsyball]

How about this: every time you want to post something sarcastic, post it in yellow.
Don't work so well when you use the Baby Blue format.
WOW!!! This topic now has more posts than the bacon topic:eek:

[ClayBoy31991]

How about this? Don't post anything sarcastic and we're good. Post anything sarcastic, then expect a struggle.

[Frozen_Walkers]

was reading stuff from Ragefire's link and it's reminded me of how you struggle with sarcastic. :(

didn't mean to take a jab at you or anything.

[ClayBoy31991]

No, you didnt take a jab at me. I haven't looked at the stuff in Rage's link yet, but I'm about to.

[p1um5mu991er]

wiki--Sarcasm is a form of humor that uses sharp, cutting remarks or language intended to mock, wound, or subject to contempt or ridicule.

sarcasm is an art. if used properly, at least in the context of the hsg world, people ha-ha a little and move on. unfortunately, sarcasm doesn't do the job when pointed towards people who missed the joke altogether. artful sarcasm is clever but obvious. bad sarcasm just looks like an insult. it all depends on the audience.

[ClayBoy31991]

I like the sound of a maturity test.

[p1um5mu991er]

pfff we're all flunkin'

[Frozen_Walkers]

Ty clayboy. my apology if i offended you.

[ClayBoy31991]

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people would fail that, especially those who lack maturity(and you know who you are, I'm not gonna say any names, so don't yell at me or anything like that).

[ClayBoy31991]

Ty clayboy. my apology if i offended you.

You never offended me. It's all good. :cool:

[Elektropop]

Ooooh a... a kiddiethread!

I found plums ironic posts the most stress-releaving. And I would wish to remain the same as him (not taking sides).. Do filter out the swearing though. I find it rather obnoxious to use swearing as a means to intensify one's argument. The sophistic way would be more entertaining: rhetorics (as long as it's not used in an unethical manner like getting someone else to take out the trash instead..)

http://billpaxtonismydad.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Yo_dawg_i_herd_u_like_english.jpg
(This is funny because I struggle with it..)

Skibbityboodiddle. Got my new stereosystem in yesterday and I'm tweaking their positioning at the moooment.. I got a good discount and paid about a ps3-much less than what I initially thought and that only means one thing: Smuggles! Get your clubs out cuz

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss269/Petematic/gotiem.jpg

[Roughdawg4]

That kid definetly ate his wheaties in the morning :)

[p1um5mu991er]

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr278/rodparsley/Yodawg.jpg?t=1253473790

lolwut

[gypsyball]

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr278/rodparsley/Yodawg.jpg?t=1253473790

lolwut
LMFAO

[Optimus_Prime]

I read them and I am proud to say I think we have a more mature community, don't know how it is possible but thank god :)

Yeah, the posts in that thread are way worse than here, lol. But the forum rules were pretty good and Rage's suggestion about having visible modding/posting guidelines (like that other forum) is a darn good one.

[Roughdawg4]

LOL PLUM :)

[Elektropop]

Hehehe, hadn't seen that one.

This one is my favourite:

http://memetical.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/1234260509846.jpg

[Elektropop]

Even more off-topic: Are those pubes I see on your avatar-character, RD? I thought all animated japanese females were porcelain..?

Edit: Actually, on topic! I refuse to be modded cuz we're free to speak and everything.. :) ... Nah just kidding.

[Roughdawg4]

Even more off-topic: Are those pubes I see on your avatar-character, RD? I thought all animated japanese females were porcelain..?

Edit: Actually, on topic! I refuse to be modded cuz we're free to speak and everything.. :) ... Nah just kidding.



WTF LOL :)

[Elektropop]

Yeah, I do crack'n'stuff.. So you deny that hairy batch just above her underwear being pubic hair?

...

I need another hit.

[Roughdawg4]

I think someone is getting a little too much acetone :)

[Elektropop]

You didn't answer my question :)

[Roughdawg4]

I honestly have no idea, but I can send the picture if you want to give it a full examination :)

[Elektropop]

*cough* I'd appreciate that.

[p1um5mu991er]

what exactly in the hell is going on here

[Ozvaldo]

But what is a standard for sexual abusive or racist ? Mine got ban when it was a little sexual content while other not. Calling japanese players a " jap " is racist to some but not to other. I agree with everything you say so far but the problem is in the standard and quite honestly the " me me me authority "

Is calling a British person a 'Brit' classed as Racist? - I don't think so..
We all shorten our text for convenience, this is done globally.
btw - i am firmly against racism!

[interyernan]

Looks like Poppers is admiring RD's wonderful hairy bush and cos RD is a stupid YANK, the innuendo is flying right over his head.

[p1um5mu991er]

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr278/rodparsley/rifleman.jpg?t=1253536969

wot innuendo

[Roughdawg4]

Looks like Poppers is admiring RD's wonderful hairy bush and cos RD is a stupid YANK, the innuendo is flying right over his head.


I thought I understood what he meant when I talked to him earlier but am I missing something?


And by the way you limey bastard, if you are going to use a name make sure you get it right. I grew up in Florida most of my life so you might be better off using Redneck then Yank you wanker ;)

[Elektropop]

Did 'I' miss something? :)

[Roughdawg4]

Yeah Yeah I see the subtle messages now, that was way too early to respond to this topic :)

[gypsyball]

what exactly in the hell is going on here
I have no clue P1um.